notwell Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 That's about the size of it. They were that bad they made a very very average side look half decent. Just as they did with similar teams as Liverpool in West Brom and Sunderland. Time for King Louis to abdicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 That looks like Bournemouth safe. rafa benitez Newcastle manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Great appointment for them. A real coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 dammit all i completely agree notwell, newcastle will now become my second team on the basis of rafa alone, thats why i was so gutted when he went to chelsea because i did will them to win the europa league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibaba Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Newcastle are an absolute joke. They've been in a similar situation before, but that time time they only had 8 games left and chose to bring in a big name, Alan 'football genius' Shearer. From those 8 games he needed to get 6 points. They got 5. And relegated. I love Rafa but I think this is a mistake, both for him and for Newcastle. They should have gone for Moyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 It's a master stroke by Newcastle. You can't compare Shearer to Benitez. I expect Newcastle to stay up. They have the best squad of those down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Rafa won the European Cup with Igor Biscan and Djimi Traore. Surely he can keep Newcastle up with Jon Jo Shelvey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Newcastle are an absolute joke. They've been in a similar situation before, but that time time they only had 8 games left and chose to bring in a big name, Alan 'football genius' Shearer. From those 8 games he needed to get 6 points. They got 5. And relegated. I love Rafa but I think this is a mistake, both for him and for Newcastle. They should have gone for Moyes. I'd like to know how much they are paying him before declaring it a mistake. Naturally, if he DOES keep them up it was a gilded move for both parties. Of course it's the lazy twats on the field who are the problem because they don't give a toss. Moyes? About as good as McLaren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The implications of relegation are unlimited. Newcastle will get parachute payments if they go down but given that the minimum each team is getting next year is something like £98m then you cannot really pay Rafa enough to keep them up. I think had the existing manager been kept they were looking highly likely to go down. I think Benitez will keep them up. If he does then £10m would be worth it as far as paying him goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I see the fat waiter has agreed a relegation release clause for himself though so maybe he is not that confident. Good cup manager maybe but when was the last time he won a league title? It also looks like many of Liverpool's problems may have been as a direct result of his management. Let's remember that even he could not get Torres scoring at Chelsea despite their history at Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I see the fat waiter has agreed a relegation release clause for himself though so maybe he is not that confident. Good cup manager maybe but when was the last time he won a league title? It also looks like many of Liverpool's problems may have been as a direct result of his management. Let's remember that even he could not get Torres scoring at Chelsea despite their history at Liverpool. I hold no brief for Benitez, but............ It is a bit mission impossible. Do you blame a top tier European manager for putting a clause in that says he's not going down to the second division as a consequence of years of mismanagement by others? Liverpool's problems? Well it all goes in cycles and no team can be top dog all the time. Look at the state of United under that cloggie fella with the briefcase. I don't think Christ himself could have got Torres scoring again. He was crocked and Liverpool got rid at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I see the fat waiter has agreed a relegation release clause for himself though so maybe he is not that confident. Good cup manager maybe but when was the last time he won a league title? It also looks like many of Liverpool's problems may have been as a direct result of his management. Let's remember that even he could not get Torres scoring at Chelsea despite their history at Liverpool. liverpool have gone backwards since he left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The 2009 Open championship went from being the best one ever to a massive downer, when Tom Watson almost won but bogeyed the final hole. I have a horrible feeling that Leicester are Tom Watson and Spurs are the slaphead Stewart Cink. Nobody was pleased when he won, not even him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I see the fat waiter has agreed a relegation release clause for himself though so maybe he is not that confident. Good cup manager maybe but when was the last time he won a league title? It also looks like many of Liverpool's problems may have been as a direct result of his management. Let's remember that even he could not get Torres scoring at Chelsea despite their history at Liverpool. It makes sense for both sides. And it isn't about winning the league. It's about keeping them up. I'm by no means a big fan of Benitez but it's an excellent appointment for Newcastle. And Torres was finished at Liverpool. Injuries took the half a yard that made him top class rather than ordinary. Exactly the same happened with Shevchenko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The issue with a relegation release clause for a manager in is, in my eyes, that it shows a lack of commitment to the players. Clearly this is another pay cheque for Benitez and he has no real interest in Newcastle. That makes him no different to a lot of the players currently at Newcastle so why would they be any more motivated to play for him than McLaren? Benitez does not have a transfer window to bring in new players so he must use what is already there and those players are the ones who got Newcastle into this predicament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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