the stinking enigma Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 so you have watched it on youtube yet still feel it was a "rant" manxman? i thought at the time it was a selfless act by rafa to take attention away from stevie me after he chinned the guy at the disco. it was quite big news until the "rant" and happened the night after liverpool thrashed newcastle away to put themselves firmly in the premiership race. fat sam wouldnt even get considered for the jobs rafa has had, and rightly so. find me a west ham fan with anyything good to say about him- and he kept them up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 He never got Newcastle relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 he never won them the champions league either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 find me a west ham fan with anyything good to say about him- and he kept them up! True. But it says more about West Ham fans with delusions of grandeur than it says about Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 no, i think it was more their desire to see their team play entertaining football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 find me a west ham fan with anyything good to say about him- and he kept them up! True. But it says more about West Ham fans with delusions of grandeur than it says about Sam. I think West Ham's delusions may be realised shortly. In part because of the work Sam did. They'll be regular top four contenders, soon, might even be this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Half way through last season, before the injuries kicked in, WH were playing great football and were in 4th place behind Chelsea, Man C and Man U. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2307895-premier-league-table-latest-2014-epl-standings-and-predictions-for-matchday-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 luckily sunderland fans are more accepting http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/02/26/sam-allardyce-warms-up-for-west-ham-return-by-taking-swipe-at-su/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 He did a great job at West Ham. He might keep Sunderland up on limited resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 the guy is a cunt. end of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 he is still better than roy hodgson tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I am guessing you are a Liverpool fan then TSE? You seem to be besotted with Benitez and scathing of a manager who is known to dislike him as well as a very poor opinion of Roy Hodgson. Benetiz is a decent manager but I still stand by my assertion that he is over rated as a result of his achievements with Valencia and Liverpool. The rest of his career has been pretty average considering the teams he has managed. Compare Benitez with Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger all of whom have sustained success over a long period or won trophies at multiple clubs. Mourinho has won league titles in Portugal, England, Spain and Italy. Wenger has/had a period of sustained success with Arsenal winning the league numerous times. Ferguson's United dominated English football and won the Champions League twice. Ferguson was also successful with Aberdeen in the Scottish League and in Europe. As for Newcastle getting a manager who is "out of their league" bear in mind that Bobby Robson has also managed that club. A British manager with a pretty decent record and achievements in multiple countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 And Kenny Dalglish. But Robson and Dalglish were along time ago and Newcastle's treatment of them was so bad they've been in decline since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Newcastle United, defined by strength of support, dominating its one-club city and tradition is a big club. I believe I read that it is the 5th best supported club in Europe. It is only woeful mismanagement that makes it look feeble enough for a manager to be "out of their league". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Nail on the head here from David Squires once again with regards to Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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