woolley Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I doubt it. Anyone likely to vote for Corbyn wouldn't have been considering voting Tory in the first place. Corbyn has a certain appeal to a certain demographic. I don't think that includes swing voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 The recent disclosures in Lord Ashcroft's book, 'Call Me Dave', which describe Cameron's antic's whilst at university will raise Corbyn's ratings. The claims for which the evidence has disappeared? Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Corbyn wants to scrap the welfare cap now. Tick tock... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34341360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Not looking too good for Jezza. He has become the first ever Labour leader to 'score' a negative result in debut poll-ratings. A minus result, to boot, worse than Michael Foot!. He obviously has a long road ahead, if he survives long enough ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I honestly think he'll chuck the towel in. Maybe sooner than anyone thinks. He's a career rebel not a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Not debating Trident...because he'd lose the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't think he really wants the role. He'll do it for a couple of years, review the party structure, approach policy matters as a blank canvas, have internal debate, refresh the party, then some one else will come in. Then a re-envigorated Labour can have two years to run at the Tories. Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 You're unrealistic if you think him leaving without fighting an election won't be seen as a major defeat. I don't think he controls his "story" enough for it not to be portrayed as a shambles. The electorate needs to see a Prime Minister-in-waiting managing his party and policy agenda. Labour is going to have real difficulty doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I doubt it. Anyone likely to vote for Corbyn wouldn't have been considering voting Tory in the first place. Corbyn has a certain appeal to a certain demographic. I don't think that includes swing voters. He has the highest number of Labour Party votes behind him for any Post War Labour Leader. It's just the sellout New Labour grandees who can't stand him because he stands for all the values they have since jettisoned in their clamour for power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 But selling out those ideas was the only way they could get power. How does he square that circle? There aren't enough have nots to vote him into power in a general election. At the moment he is preaching to the converted. The unions, the left, the young and the naive. It is not a naturally left wing country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 But selling out those ideas was the only way they could get power. How does he square that circle? There aren't enough have nots to vote him into power in a general election. At the moment he is preaching to the converted. The unions, the left, the young and the naive. It is not a naturally left wing country. The expression, 'sixth-form-socialism', used to describe his speech, made me chuckle. Now it emerges that some of his ramblings were lifted from a 1980's draft. Crap. he won't last, only the die-hard dufflers will stay with him, the dreamers who see him to be the last bastion of leftist utopianism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 The Unions have already found a weak spot with him over Trident. Imagine what would happen after the nationalisation of the railways and the utilities etc? The Unions will rip him and the country to shreds. The collapse of the economy back in the 60's & 70's will pale into insignificance if he ever gets into No. 10. Sadly most of his research entourage weren't even a twinkle in their parents eye during that period so none of them will have experienced things like the three day week and power cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 The Unions have already found a weak spot with him over Trident. Imagine what would happen after the nationalisation of the railways and the utilities etc? The Unions will rip him and the country to shreds. The collapse of the economy back in the 60's & 70's will pale into insignificance if he ever gets into No. 10. Sadly most of his research entourage weren't even a twinkle in their parents eye during that period so none of them will have experienced things like the three day week and power cuts. Yes. The same way that war recurs. Living memory dies off and the same mistakes are made time and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 ... if he ever gets into No.10 He won't ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 And now he says he hasn't decided whether or not there will be a renewal of Trident. There has to be a debate. However he announces in advance to the world, that as PM, he would never, ever use it. It would kill the enemy's civilians. What a master strategist. What a statesman. What a tit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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