Albert Tatlock Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Indeedy. Women only carriages deal with only the disease, not the cause. It's like giving up...accepting gated communities. The first of his many obvious mistakes that would set the Labour party back 30 years in UK politics. Politics needs a credible and realistic opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/forget-segregated-trains-weve-forgotten-jeremy-corbyns-other-admirable-proposals-for-women-10473065.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Had a quick scan of the article, and he makes a lot of sense. Its just a shame that "some" people have fallen into the trap of focusing on one facet of his proposals, and ignored the rest. The TL:DR version for Woolley...read the fucking article you lazy git. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It's TB:DR really. Too busy to go searching for the ramblings of a nutter. I know enough about his views over the years to know that he is indeed a nutter. Business to run. People to see. Book to write. It doesn't do itself you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 There you are. Some nice Jeremy type economic comment for you: http://leapeconomics.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Looks like it's gonna be Catweazle then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 If he does win then I expect he'll have quite a honeymoon. The press has portrayed him as a total loonie. All he has to do is sound vaguely sensible and people will listen. I bet you the Tories are going to be over-keen portraying him as a cross between Lenin, Trotsky and Citizen Smith and I bet they'll miss-fire if Corbyn manages to portray himself to be a sort of ordinary guy with policies for those working hard and isolated from economic prosperity. As has happened so often recently politics is probably going to be a total mess. The Tories over-confident, but rebellious, Labour fractious and inward looking, with UKIP and the SNP milking this for all their worth. Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Agree. I don't think there are too many people who would vote for him though. UK is a centre right country despite what the left wing might tell each other in their social media and focus groups. That's why the election was such a shock to them. Now they've gone even further to the left thinking that was the problem. Be interesting if he wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 It's not so much that, it was that the centrist prevented no ideas. I didn't vote for anyone in the end because I didn't like the idea of abandoning the likes of Lativa etc to Putin. But I'm not that bothered if he wins. At least we'll put a case for justice, freedom, liberty, fairness and caring in the face of the conservatism, fundimentalism and nationalism. Mealy mouthed cow-towing to these values won't win enough votes to win an election either. Better to be the voice of reason and offer an alternative so we're ready when the world comes to it's senses. I think he'll be gone in two years, then the centre will regroup and a candidate will emerge that offers a genuinely centrist/liberal alternative to Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Another Blair then? And that person will have to be very persuasive because people still feel duped by the last Blair. Britain hasn't had an even vaguely leftist government since 1976 when the IMF moved in to take control of the finances. The winter of discontent 78/79 put the top hat on it and memories are long. Blair knew that and that was why he rebranded as "New Labour". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Not another Blair. New Labour was an answer for a time, but that's gone. We need to recognise that and move on. I'm talking about offering a new centre-left alternative and making a case for that. I think this leadership election has probably blown any hope for the next election, and no of the candidates would have changed that. Corbyn giving the bottle a good shake for a year or two and a redefinition of what the left's aims now are, then give a new guy two elections to set out the vision. (I thought you believed the Liberal-Leftys had been in power since the 60's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Well, I see what you mean. I guess right and left have subtly different meanings according to whether you are discussing the economy or social policy embracing law and order etc. We have seen right wing policies in deregulating the economy which has had mixed results. On social trends things have indeed been very liberal for at least 50 years and the Tories are just as responsible for that as anyone else. We also have a detached establishment that is too far removed from the lives of ordinary people who are just trying to do their best. It is noticable that many of the people who are engaged by Corbyn are the younger half of the population who have not previously experienced the "advantages" of the failed manifesto he espouses. The fact that he has Murphy as an advisor on economic policy is intuitive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Burnham was the only one of the candidates who could have taken Labour forward. The one good thing about Corbyn is that it will shake the pieces around and hopefully an electable party with an electable leader will emerge from the debris. It could be just what they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well at least the party have elected the right deputy leader. He's not a bad golfer either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 59% to Corbyn. New era, hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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