the stinking enigma Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'm gutted Cass. Had you also thrown in a guardianista there i would have completed all four corners of my bongo bongo bingo card. Inexplicable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yes but according to rmanx the issues clearly established as being caused by immigrants are, well, someone else's fault and hearsay. Deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rmanx Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Yes but according to rmanx the issues clearly established as being caused by immigrants are, well, someone else's fault and hearsay. Deluded. Nope, that is just how your simple mind understands it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 No. That is a fact. Re read your own posts. It is continually someone else fault. And if anyone suggests Muslim immigrants are causing issues they are racist. Oh Yeh and it's Blair and bush's fault and the West in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Did you really just pull the "with us or against us" card? [1]Is there a problem with Islamic Extremism? Yes. [2]Is there a problem with Right Wing Extremism? Yes. [3]Are we completely innocent in the rise of Islamic Extremism? No. [4]Are we making the problem worse by making all Muslims accountable for the actions of the few? Yes. [5]Are we the architects of our own problem by interfering in Middle Eastern problems? No doubt. This is not an "us or them" situation and to think it is that simple is very naive. I think this is rmanx's attempt to frame the argument. I think the main debate is around [4] - I'm not making all Muslims accountable for the actions of the few. But I worry that religious moderates can fail to present an alternative to extremism and can provide cover for extremists by downplaying the dangers in dogmatic religious belief. There is then the point that it is the few who are the problem and they are the focus of our attention. Islamism is by far the most genocidal ideology the world is facing today which is happy to practice behaviours which should be beyond the pale to any person who cares for human rights and dignity. These people are evil and are responsible for their evil behaviour. It is not an excuse that there has been wars in Muslim countries, therefore crucifying people and massacring Yazidis or theatre goers is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxb&b Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Worth a watch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Banning male immigrants from a swimming pool in Germany due to behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 they ignored the no bombing sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 They didn't get past the "no intimidating females with sex object type approach" sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chinahand Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Cassie, can you stop cutting and pasting huge swaths of text from 3rd party articles. Plus there is absolutely no need to bold everything. Do you know how to link to a url? If you gave your own opinion and linked to professionally formatted sources people would be far more likely to read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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