ScotsAlan Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Get rid of ISIS then the people can go home to rebuild. I agree with the majority of your post but for this sentence. How do we get rid of ISIS? You remove the hostages. Then you give Iran lots of guns. Iran will deal with Isis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 But Iran is next al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Stay wait till we defeat IS We have been fighting the "War against Terror" since 2001...and we will be fighting it for a lot longer. How do we defeat something that has no home nation, no assets to destroy, no one leader, no one ideology? We thought with the death of OBL AQ would die off...it splintered and morphed into IS/ISIL/ISIS. Absolutely no one thought when Osama bin Laden was killed that his merry men would say "right lads let's call it a day then". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Shoe Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603511/Migrant-crisis-refugees-take-selfie-photo-Greek-boat-Lesbos-Syria-war?ref=yfp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603511/Migrant-crisis-refugees-take-selfie-photo-Greek-boat-Lesbos-Syria-war?ref=yfp I'm not sure why this photo is apparently so wrong. The selfie is (sadly) a modern day phenomena, a phone capable of taking a selfie is cheap and selfie sticks are even cheaper. Selfies are taken by all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons, if you were a group of refugees that had just completed a potentially deadly part of your journey is it really so odd to celebrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Shoe Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603511/Migrant-crisis-refugees-take-selfie-photo-Greek-boat-Lesbos-Syria-war?ref=yfp I'm not sure why this photo is apparently so wrong. The selfie is (sadly) a modern day phenomena, a phone capable of taking a selfie is cheap and selfie sticks are even cheaper. Selfies are taken by all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons, if you were a group of refugees that had just completed a potentially deadly part of your journey is it really so odd to celebrate? Seriously? Where did they get the selfie stick? Did they buy it before avoiding torture and persecution? If their local Phones-R-Us was bombed, are they still on contract? Or does it revert to pay-as-you-go? How do their roaming charges compare? Certainly MT charge a fortune on the continent. And most important of all, where the fuck did they charge their phones? Sarcasm aside, they're not refugees, they're economic migrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603511/Migrant-crisis-refugees-take-selfie-photo-Greek-boat-Lesbos-Syria-war?ref=yfp I'm not sure why this photo is apparently so wrong. The selfie is (sadly) a modern day phenomena, a phone capable of taking a selfie is cheap and selfie sticks are even cheaper. Selfies are taken by all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons, if you were a group of refugees that had just completed a potentially deadly part of your journey is it really so odd to celebrate? Seriously? Where did they get the selfie stick? Did they buy it before avoiding torture and persecution? If their local Phones-R-Us was bombed, are they still on contract? Or does it revert to pay-as-you-go? How do their roaming charges compare? Certainly MT charge a fortune on the continent. And most important of all, where the fuck did they charge their phones? Sarcasm aside, they're not refugees, they're economic migrants. You do realise there were functioning shops before their country went to rat shit? Also do you need a contract active to take a picture with your phone? Sarcasm aside you're a plonker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Get rid of ISIS then the people can go home to rebuild. I agree with the majority of your post but for this sentence. How do we get rid of ISIS? Cut off the funding and training. You think they turned from a ragtag group of mercenaries to fully equipped army strength complete with brand new U.S. trucks, weaponry and banking structure by shuffling a few suitcases of cash around the Middle East? They always have and continue to be funded, armed and trained by the same forces that profess to be fighting them. If you play both sides of the game you can direct the show to go any way you want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Get rid of ISIS then the people can go home to rebuild. I agree with the majority of your post but for this sentence. How do we get rid of ISIS? Cut off the funding and training. You think they turned from a ragtag group of mercenaries to fully equipped army strength complete with brand new U.S. trucks, weaponry and banking structure by shuffling a few suitcases of cash around the Middle East? They always have and continue to be funded, armed and trained by the same forces that profess to be fighting them. If you play both sides of the game you can direct the show to go any way you want it to. Saudi Arabia...our so called allies who are the hot bed for Wasabi mentalism...and an awful lot of money...oh and the Bin Laden family... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Get rid of ISIS then the people can go home to rebuild. I agree with the majority of your post but for this sentence. How do we get rid of ISIS? Cut off the funding and training. You think they turned from a ragtag group of mercenaries to fully equipped army strength complete with brand new U.S. trucks, weaponry and banking structure by shuffling a few suitcases of cash around the Middle East? They always have and continue to be funded, armed and trained by the same forces that profess to be fighting them. If you play both sides of the game you can direct the show to go any way you want it to. Saudi Arabia...our so called allies who are the hot bed for Wasabi mentalism...and an awful lot of money...oh and the Bin Laden family... Exactly. If the U.S and it's allies so wished they could introduce some 'democracy' to Saudi Arabia, like they brought to Libya and Iraq, and nail this at source. However it suits a lot of agendas to work with the largest sponsor of Islamic fundamentalism and cultivate the new Al Qaeda so they can direct it to go where it needs to be chased and 'destroyed.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Exactly. If the U.S and it's allies so wished they could introduce some 'democracy' to Saudi Arabia, like they brought to Libya and Iraq, and nail this at source. However it suits a lot of agendas to work with the largest sponsor of Islamic fundamentalism and cultivate the new Al Qaeda so they can direct it to go where it needs to be chased and 'destroyed.' You mean where the oil and oil pipelines are...and not Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Exactly. If the U.S and it's allies so wished they could introduce some 'democracy' to Saudi Arabia, like they brought to Libya and Iraq, and nail this at source. However it suits a lot of agendas to work with the largest sponsor of Islamic fundamentalism and cultivate the new Al Qaeda so they can direct it to go where it needs to be chased and 'destroyed.' You mean where the oil and oil pipelines are...and not Israel? Aye. Funny that hey. For an organisation supposedly full of hatred for the west they have a tiny western nation slap bang in the middle of the Middle East, who routinely kill fellow brothers, that they're not too bothered about and they'd rather destroy fellow Muslim nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 They know better than to attack Israel symmetrically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 They know better than to attack Israel symmetrically. Of course they do. So they do the next best thing and systematically set about destroying Israel's neighbours, creating a power vacuum ripe for exploitation. The Israeli army couldn't do a better job if they tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 They know better than to attack Israel symmetrically. Of course they do. So they do the next best thing and systematically set about destroying Israel's neighbours, creating a power vacuum ripe for exploitation. The Israeli army couldn't do a better job if they tried. And Israel has NBC capabilities...strange how we make a habit of going to war in places without such capabilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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