Bombs in Turkey

[quilp]

 

Whether it is easy or not the answer to who committed this atrocity can only really come from evidence and not the persuasiveness of the theory behind that evidence.

 

The trouble is evidence is sparse and so different theories can always be spun.

 

Trying to double think the rationalizations used to justify doing this is basically impossible - there are too many possibilities.

 

Is it IS targeting simply attaching a large gathering of people it considers the enemy, nationalists targeting Kurdish sympathizers, supporters of the deep state who believe it is worthwhile to sacrifice a few to wake up the many to the dangers their country will face if don't support it.

 

These combinations aren't even mutually exclusive let alone complete.

 

All we really know is that a group of people, for probably a complex mix of motives, coldly planned to murder a large number of people. Shivers. I wonder how many of them will be held to account for doing that. Sadly I suspect it will be a small fraction.

 

No-one knows which mercenaries are working for who, which side they'll be on next week, who really is funding ISIS and what everyone is going to do next. It's a mess. The US and it's allies have been carrying out 'sorties' for 4 years and yet Putin comes in and wipes out most of the terrorist infrastructure and personnel in 2 weeks. The west are a joke and have been shown up to be such. It has been about the pipeline from Qatar to the Med via Syria all along and Putin comes in and checkmates them to maintain his gas monopoly.

Be interesting, or scary, to see how this plays out.

 

 

Saying that, Israel's 'Leviathan' gas field, which is believed to have the potential for 450 billion cubic feet of gas, recently considered to be the biggest in the Med, until the discovery of an even larger field off Egypt, blunts the influence of this, 'monopoly'.

[Chinahand]

A great FT article on Isis and oil.

The FT is clearly doing a series on ISIS and oil.

 

Here's another one.

 

The main point is that the oil is mainly been used by the local populations under ISIS control.

 

Bombing the oil fields and refineries will reduce the supply of petrol and diesel to these people, but the result will, more than likely, simply drive up the costs of these products - immiserating local populations, while further enriching ISIS.

 

What's the point?

 

 

[Lxxx]

 

 

Whether it is easy or not the answer to who committed this atrocity can only really come from evidence and not the persuasiveness of the theory behind that evidence.

 

The trouble is evidence is sparse and so different theories can always be spun.

 

Trying to double think the rationalizations used to justify doing this is basically impossible - there are too many possibilities.

 

Is it IS targeting simply attaching a large gathering of people it considers the enemy, nationalists targeting Kurdish sympathizers, supporters of the deep state who believe it is worthwhile to sacrifice a few to wake up the many to the dangers their country will face if don't support it.

 

These combinations aren't even mutually exclusive let alone complete.

 

All we really know is that a group of people, for probably a complex mix of motives, coldly planned to murder a large number of people. Shivers. I wonder how many of them will be held to account for doing that. Sadly I suspect it will be a small fraction.

 

No-one knows which mercenaries are working for who, which side they'll be on next week, who really is funding ISIS and what everyone is going to do next. It's a mess. The US and it's allies have been carrying out 'sorties' for 4 years and yet Putin comes in and wipes out most of the terrorist infrastructure and personnel in 2 weeks. The west are a joke and have been shown up to be such. It has been about the pipeline from Qatar to the Med via Syria all along and Putin comes in and checkmates them to maintain his gas monopoly.

Be interesting, or scary, to see how this plays out.

 

 

Saying that, Israel's 'Leviathan' gas field, which is believed to have the potential for 450 billion cubic feet of gas, recently considered to be the biggest in the Med, until the discovery of an even larger field off Egypt, blunts the influence of this, 'monopoly'.

 

 

This won't be enough to supply most of Europe, as Russia does now.

 

Israel has also just announced a huge oil discovery in the disputed Golan Heights territory, which it stole from Syria back in the 1960's. It would benefit them greatly if Syria was completely destabilised to negate any political contention of this huge find. The US seems and it's proxy ISIS seem to be doing a decent job of this. One might wonder how far back this 'discovery' was actually made.

[Lxxx]

 

A great FT article on Isis and oil.

The FT is clearly doing a series on ISIS and oil.

 

Here's another one.

 

The main point is that the oil is mainly been used by the local populations under ISIS control.

 

Bombing the oil fields and refineries will reduce the supply of petrol and diesel to these people, but the result will, more than likely, simply drive up the costs of these products - immiserating local populations, while further enriching ISIS.

 

What's the point?

 

 

 

 

You really think a ragtag group of mercenaries with a few Kalashnikovs and Toyota land cruisers would be able to saunter in and undercut giant corporations? Corporations who have contributed to overthrowing whole countries across the globe for decades and can call upon the might of the biggest military superpower on earth to back them up?

 

Come on China, you seem like an intelligent man. Why would you be seduced by a bit of corporate propaganda like an FT article?

[Chinahand]

The Exons, BPs, Shells and Chevrons of this world have no presence in oil in Syria and are a minor presence in Iraq .

 

The Syrian oil fields are state owned hectares of nodding donkey pumps and don't produce that much crude, and the refining capabilities are even poorer.

 

Syria's army has lost control of them and yes, highly motivated and violent people though lightly armed have been able to control them.

 

The whole point of the FT articles is that most of the money these oil fields are generating is coming from the few million people who live in the local area.

 

The oil is put into trucks and driven to refineries and markets.

 

If you don't believe that, well fine, yippee for you, but calling these articles corporate propaganda is in my view rather silly.

 

Here's another FT article on Syria's gas market.