When Skies Are Grey Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yeah, but his argument then was that the Russians were bombing the good guys. Cameron's always wanted to bomb Syria. Keeps his Saudi paymasters happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Parliamentary democracy at close to its best: listen to Hilary BennA fantastic speech, cheered by all . Surely must become the next labour leader . What a man/woman . Bonus points for invoking godwins law but the clincher was telling his brother mp's that the drug advice service and helpline thought themselves better than his fellow mp's . Genius . He knew that would fire their egos up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 An all round swell guy with only our interests at heart http://www.pan-uk.org/press/hilarybenn.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Parliamentary democracy at close to its best: listen to Hilary BennA fantastic speech, cheered by all . Surely must become the next labour leader . What a man/woman . Bonus points for invoking godwins law but the clincher was telling his brother mp's that the drug advice service and helpline thought themselves better than his fellow mp's . Genius . He knew that would fire their egos up I thought it was great too. I thought Corbin's face was a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 An all round swell guy with only our interests at heart http://www.pan-uk.org/press/hilarybenn.html "An honest politician is one who when bought stays bought" Mark Twain (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Terrier Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 If you can't tell the difference between a diplomatic solution which doesn't result in massive loss of life and appeasement, you are just as bad as Cameron. How can you be "diplomatic" with savages? >How can you be "diplomatic" with savages? Hilary Benn tried with some effect. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/dec/03/hilary-benn-airstrikes-vote-speech-full-must-confront-isis-evil-video And suggesting those opposing wholesale slaughter of innocents (via collateral damage) are "terrorist sympathisers", has backfired spectacularly. Not sure who wrote Cameron's speech to that effect, but it was as ill-conceived as it was delivered. TBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 >How can you be "diplomatic" with savages? Hilary Benn tried with some effect. He wasn't addressing savages. Well, not in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padhasapa Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Hilary Benn made a very persuasive case for the bombings and he has changed my mind. Let's start bombing the bastards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padhasapa Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 but the clincher was telling his brother mp's that the drug advice service and helpline thought themselves better than his fellow mp's . Genius . He knew that would fire their egos up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweek Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 That speech by Hilary Benn was so rousing that I kicked our Persian cat right up the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Whatever happened to poor old Al Quada? They must feel like Elvis did after the Beatles came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 after seeing all the moral guardians on social media today I'm glad social media , wasn't around in the 40s otherwise we would have welcomed the nazis in and be speaking German now. so many self loathing brits around its sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Parliamentary democracy at close to its best: listen to Hilary BennA fantastic speech, cheered by all . Surely must become the next labour leader . What a man/woman . Bonus points for invoking godwins law but the clincher was telling his brother mp's that the drug advice service and helpline thought themselves better than his fellow mp's . Genius . He knew that would fire their egos up I thought it was great too. I thought Corbin's face was a picture. I thought it was a well rehearsed performance from a man who has consistently voted for war , some have described it as "disingenuous bulls**t". It may have been cheered by many, rather than "all" but not surprising that all those in favour of a 'war' applauded , if only to make the labour leader more uncomfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies Are Grey Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 after seeing all the moral guardians on social media today I'm glad social media , wasn't around in the 40s otherwise we would have welcomed the nazis in and be speaking German now. so many self loathing brits around its sickening. I cant work out if you are being serious or not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have in my hand a piece of paper that says there were never any doubts about going to war prior to the invention of social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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