woolley Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I'll tell you exactly what swung it for me. He won. That explains a lot about you... Yes indeed. I deal with what is and not what might have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Man, it's so weird not being on the same page as Woolley, heh. I do think Trump, a Republican house and senate is going to be a bad thing for poor citizens in the US and immigrants, but should be interesting on a world scale when he's dealing with the UN and other foreign countries. End of the day is he won, and random shitspraying at him isn't going to stick without proof. We're all just pissing in the wind on a Manx forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 You people cant even change something that happens on the isle of man yet here you are trying to overthrow US democracy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 As we are on all subjects. IOM takes no notice of us so I can't see the Donald doing so. This is all for our own amusement or self-torture innit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 You people cant even change something that happens on the isle of man yet here you are trying to overthrow US democracy Damn you Stinky. You beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I'll tell you exactly what swung it for me. He won. Him winning made you change your mind and think he's not beyond reason? That is beyond reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I have said from the start, i'm going to reserve judgement until trump makes his stance clear on the horse tram situation 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Him winning made you change your mind and think he's not beyond reason? That is beyond reason. No it isn't. It is now a fact and we have to look at things the way we are. It was difficult to imagine him as president, but then he won. So what are you going to do? The only course now is to see things as they are however undesirable you may find it. He has gathered a pretty strong team around him with a variety of views on the geopolitical situation. I don't see a crew of yes men. I have seen many liberal idiots elected to office in my lifetime. Nothing I could do but I didn't go into the depths of despair about it. Liberals have to learn how to lose. Hopefully they'll be getting a lot more practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I have said from the start, i'm going to reserve judgement until trump makes his stance clear on the horse tram situation He's conflicted, believing them cruel to the horses but at the same time recognising that terminating them at the Sefton would be their death knell at a time when revenues are improving significantly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Liberals have to learn how to lose. Hopefully they'll be getting a lot more practice. Well the Republicans have had 8 years at it so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I have seen many liberal idiots elected to office in my lifetime. And did you change your view of them once they won, because they won? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 He has gathered a pretty strong team around him with a variety of views on the geopolitical situation. I don't see a crew of yes men. Are you being blind on purpose? His crony list is so bulging with self interest and conflicts of interest that its like looking at Dr Evil's Legion of Evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Certainly not. Do you recommend it? As long as you realise that its all horse shit and right wing wank fantasy. Sounds like it's right up your fucking street... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 And did you change your view of them once they won, because they won? No, and they gave me no reason to. They had their chance but they all disappointed. That's why we are where we are. It was always somewhat different with them though. They were all of the same career politician mould and you knew what you were going to get. I accept your point. I didn't want Trump to win before the election and he is clearly a loose cannon, but now I'm intrigued to see what will happen with a leader of the Western world who doesn't automatically think that you should be daggers drawn with Russia, doesn't automatically think that you should open your borders to all and sundry as long as they provide cheap labour, doesn't automatically pray to the god of globalisation and is happy to call a spade a spade. Let us watch from the sidelines and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 He has gathered a pretty strong team around him with a variety of views on the geopolitical situation. I don't see a crew of yes men. Are you being blind on purpose? His crony list is so bulging with self interest and conflicts of interest that its like looking at Dr Evil's Legion of Evil. Oh yeah, and the Clintons are all sweetness and light. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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