rmanx Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 ... waterboarding back on the table... His argument to justify it was along the lines of "they're cutting peoples' heads off, we need to fight fire with fire", suggesting that he sees torture as a deterrent, or punishment. Scary stuff. I can understand (though not necessarily agree with) the argument to use it as a last resort in extreme circumstances, but he didn't even bring that into it. And as usual the interviewer just let it go. When the former head of the CIA publically says that it doesn't work, and the majority of the time they were given useless or even detrimental information as a result of "enhanced interrogation" says all you need to know about waterboarding... Whatever else he may achieve it's certainly good value watching the liberal hysteria. How about we set you up for a session of waterboarding and see how hysterical you get afterwards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasps4Sale Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Not advocating torture are you rmanx? You seem to have a touch of the Trumps about you. You've changed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Quite the opposite. Usually the advocates of such techniques have no comprehension of what actually happens during waterboarding. I am willing to bet that if Wooley is given a session of waterboarding he would be confessing to any crime you can think of just to make it stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Christopher Hitchens getting waterboarded is interesting viewing. He didn't last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Quite the opposite. Usually the advocates of such techniques have no comprehension of what actually happens during waterboarding. I am willing to bet that if Wooley is given a session of waterboarding he would be confessing to any crime you can think of just to make it stop. As would anyone and that's the problem with it. If someone is holding a chain saw to your balls you will tell them anything they want to hear, so how reliable is the information? That would be my problem with it. No qualms with torturing a terrorist per se, but no point if you're going to get nonsense instead of reliable intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) It's the Independent so take it with a grain of salt, but looks like Donald Trump will be reducing US contributions to international organisations such as the UN by 40% http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-united-nations-funding-cuts-abortion-israel-settlements-president-executive-order-a7546486.html Which, whilst I dislike the UN, will probably lead more countries into bed with the untrustworthy Chinks. Edited January 26, 2017 by Tarne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Quite the opposite. Usually the advocates of such techniques have no comprehension of what actually happens during waterboarding. I am willing to bet that if Wooley is given a session of waterboarding he would be confessing to any crime you can think of just to make it stop. As would anyone and that's the problem with it. If someone is holding a chain saw to your balls you will tell them anything they want to hear, so how reliable is the information? That would be my problem with it. No qualms with torturing a terrorist per se, but no point if you're going to get nonsense instead of reliable intelligence. It's probably easier just to execute them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Birch the bastards! Edited January 26, 2017 by quilp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Quite the opposite. Usually the advocates of such techniques have no comprehension of what actually happens during waterboarding. I am willing to bet that if Wooley is given a session of waterboarding he would be confessing to any crime you can think of just to make it stop. As would anyone and that's the problem with it. If someone is holding a chain saw to your balls you will tell them anything they want to hear, so how reliable is the information? That would be my problem with it. No qualms with torturing a terrorist per se, but no point if you're going to get nonsense instead of reliable intelligence. It's probably easier just to execute them. Does that make us just as bad as the "bad guys" cutting peoples heads off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasps4Sale Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Not if we're executing them for Jesus! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Quite the opposite. Usually the advocates of such techniques have no comprehension of what actually happens during waterboarding. I am willing to bet that if Wooley is given a session of waterboarding he would be confessing to any crime you can think of just to make it stop. As would anyone and that's the problem with it. If someone is holding a chain saw to your balls you will tell them anything they want to hear, so how reliable is the information? That would be my problem with it. No qualms with torturing a terrorist per se, but no point if you're going to get nonsense instead of reliable intelligence. It's probably easier just to execute them. Does that make us just as bad as the "bad guys" cutting peoples heads off? Not if they killed first. No qualms about state execution of someone who had taken it upon themselves to behead somebody. It does not make us as bad as them. It is poetic justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Have you considered they may think the same thing? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 It is poetic justice. Surely it lacks the ironic twist of fate which characterises poetic justice. I think it would be poetic justice if, in the act of beheading someone, they slipped and cut their own head off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 It is poetic justice. Surely it lacks the ironic twist of fate which characterises poetic justice. I think it would be poetic justice if, in the act of beheading someone, they slipped and cut their own head off. Well that would save the bother, I agree. I do see where you are coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Have you considered they may think the same thing? Indeed not. Their beliefs are insane so who knows what they think about anything? Even converts escaping from ISIS controlled areas soon seem to have changed their minds about the Islamic paradise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.