P.K. Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 As I have posted previously Russia has invested $squillions in Assad and are basically now stuck with him. So the Russian effort is all about gaining ground for Assad. The US, on the other hand, are all about destroying ISIS. So they announce that getting rid of Assad is not an objective. Cue yet another WMD attack against the "rebels" because Assad now knows he has carte blanche. And what better way to demoralise your enemy than to murder their women and children in a most horrific way and then strike the medical facilities that the survivors are taken to. It would appear that the regime got it all exacrly right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 It seems the world is assuming that Assad has tight, overall control over his military. Plenty of rogue elements in his tribe. It would be a poor show if he had to admit that this attack was carried out without his sanction. It might indicate he was losing his grip. Has anyone blamed the Israelis yet..? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 It's not against his interests, it's just this time he got caught red handed. He's been suspected of doing it after Gouta for the past few years. His generals have almost carte blanche to do what they want. If Assad fell, it'd be a genocidal General that took over. it's not against his interests? are you sure you are thinking straight? Also you keep mentioning ghouta- it was certainly reported as assad at the time and if you say it enough times maybe it will become so. But you may find that the eventual investigation pointed more to the rebels than assad. You need to stop watching so many hollywood blockbusters fella. You think he would sign his own death warrant because he is bad and evil and a tyrant?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 He got rid of his chemical weapons including sarin, the ingredients and equipment to make it( supplied in happier and more cuddly times by britain and germany). I know you are a very busy man but do some research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Could Britain have sold sarin chemicals to Assads regime? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/08/could-britain-have-sold-sarin-chemicals-assad-syria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 World war 'celebrity'. Who saw that one coming? And 'I'm a celebrity, and its my bunker!" Great entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) It's not against his interests, it's just this time he got caught red handed. He's been suspected of doing it after Gouta for the past few years. His generals have almost carte blanche to do what they want. If Assad fell, it'd be a genocidal General that took over. it's not against his interests? are you sure you are thinking straight? Also you keep mentioning ghouta- it was certainly reported as assad at the time and if you say it enough times maybe it will become so. But you may find that the eventual investigation pointed more to the rebels than assad. You need to stop watching so many hollywood blockbusters fella. You think he would sign his own death warrant because he is bad and evil and a tyrant?. He has nowhere else to go. Plus facing a war-crimes tribunal for which even the Russians would have to hand him over if he sought asylum. It's basically shit or bust for Assad. But then Idi Amin ended up with a very nice lifestyle in Saudi. Funny old world... Edited April 11, 2017 by P.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 What about all the dead syrians pk? All the refugees that nobody wants? It was about regime change from they very beginning. From secular elected to extreme islam. And we are all here passing judgement on assad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 We were losing. We had to come up with something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Sure. He's the easiest target. Of course, if he goes the whole farrago will almost certainly sink into a well of despair with murderous factions trying to take advantage of the resultant power vacuum but hell, didn't you know? This is the "Arab Spring" FFS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Syria's the least of our worries. N.Korea could lead to half a million deaths in 3 days...plus a lot more serious shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 The trump thing is quite clever really. We sort of half expect him to do something a bit crazy. If it were anyone else we would say they had gone mad and demand their removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Assad thought he had impunity. Obama stood against everything Assad was doing but did basically nothing when he gassed 1000 civilians. Then Trump comes along saying he is all for joining in with Russia, doesn't want to be the World's policeman etc etc. I don't find it inconceivable Assad thought he could get away with a bit of sarin mixed in with a lot of deniability, but miscalculated the Don's reaction to watching asphyxiating children. Everyone one seems to think this is almost inconceivable compared to the manoeverings of the Illuminati/military industrial complex. We basically haven't a clue what happened, but I think it isn't nearly as clear cut as people are making out. Assad miscalculating Trump's reaction based on thinking he wasn't interested seems a perfectly possible explanation. I'm not saying for certain this is what happened but it is interesting seeing how many people are saying it is inconceivable Assad would do this. I disagree, on his past record it doesn't seem that outlandish to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I believe we have a responsibility to examine the role we have played in all this. Or should we put it down to evil dictator mark VI and move on to the next country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 11h11 hours agoMore North Korea is looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them! U.S.A. 20,568 replies38,407 retweets95,116 likes No you won't Donald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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