Donald Trumps Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I'd agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Sadly this is becoming more and more common: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/ The far right become braver and more brazen every day. I am sure the veterans buried at Arlington cemetery not far from where this "meeting" was held would be proud of the direction the nation they died for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 And with his demonising of muslims he must be the best recruiter ISIS have ever had! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 So ... should the UK be taking Trumps suggestion of Nigel Farage being the UK's ambassador to the US seriously? Trump - micromanaging diplomacy, telling an ally to appoint his friends to work for them, putting the current ambassador in an impossible diplomatic position, and guaranteeing either his suggestion is snubbed, or he shows over-bearing leaverage over an ally. Wonderful diplomatic skills - all done via Twitter. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The mess that has been made of Western countries is entirely down to the liberal agendas followed for the past 50 years. That, and that alone, is the cause of the rise of extremism. This is the inevitable backlash, not the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 So ... should the UK be taking Trumps suggestion of Nigel Farage being the UK's ambassador to the US seriously? Trump - micromanaging diplomacy, telling an ally to appoint his friends to work for them, putting the current ambassador in an impossible diplomatic position, and guaranteeing either his suggestion is snubbed, or he shows over-bearing leaverage over an ally. Wonderful diplomatic skills - all done via Twitter. FFS. Farage needs a bit of diplomatic experience first, say as Trade attaché to Uzbekistan for 4 or 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commish Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The mess that has been made of Western countries is entirely down to the liberal agendas followed for the past 50 years. That, and that alone, is the cause of the rise of extremism. This is the inevitable backlash, not the cause. I don't think you could accuse Reagan, Bush or Thatcher of following liberal agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The mess that has been made of Western countries is entirely down to the liberal agendas followed for the past 50 years. That, and that alone, is the cause of the rise of extremism. This is the inevitable backlash, not the cause. I don't think you could accuse Reagan, Bush or Thatcher of following liberal agendas. They did socially and on law and order. Not financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The mess that has been made of Western countries is entirely down to the liberal agendas followed for the past 50 years. That, and that alone, is the cause of the rise of extremism. This is the inevitable backlash, not the cause. I don't think you could accuse Reagan, Bush or Thatcher of following liberal agendas. They did socially and on law and order. Not financially. Your broken record is starting to skip and it is starting to sound like bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 And it is Doublethink to blame the raise of intolerance and hatred on people who's central belief is tolerance and respect for one's fellow man, and living to together peacefully, and sorting out our differences by talking and compromise. It's not Liberals that are signing up to ISIS, it's not liberals that preach race hate or building walls between nations or trying to tear apart bonds of friendship and alliances between nations. It's the people who believe in hate and division that are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I'd call flooding their countries with immigrants and permitting strict adherence to law and order to go out the window, embracing human rights legislation and in the case of the UK, submission to the jurisdiction of foreign courts pretty liberal. Wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 And it is Doublethink to blame the raise of intolerance and hatred on people who's central belief is tolerance and respect for one's fellow man, and living to together peacefully, and sorting out our differences by talking and compromise. It's not Liberals that are signing up to ISIS, it's not liberals that preach race hate or building walls between nations or trying to tear apart bonds of friendship and alliances between nations. It's the people who believe in hate and division that are doing it. Never heard of cause and effect? It is indeed a backlash and a rejection of the societies that have been created and the forces of liberalism and capitalism that created them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 And it is Doublethink to blame the raise of intolerance and hatred on people who's central belief is tolerance and respect for one's fellow man, and living to together peacefully, and sorting out our differences by talking and compromise. It's not Liberals that are signing up to ISIS, it's not liberals that preach race hate or building walls between nations or trying to tear apart bonds of friendship and alliances between nations. It's the people who believe in hate and division that are doing it. Never heard of cause and effect? It is indeed a backlash and a rejection of the societies that have been created and the forces of liberalism and capitalism that created them. And nothing to do with out aggressive foreign policies, austerity measures for the poor while the rich get richer and our being turned against ourselves by self interested demagogues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 All part of the same many faceted malaise that people are rejecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 A politician and a diplomat are very different things and require different skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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