manxb&b Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal Earnestly swept under the carpet by police and politicians, alike. All in the interests of "social-cohesion". Dennis McShane, MP, openly admitting his liberal-left leanings were to blame for his failing to act sooner. Social workers ordered to not mention the proliferation of Asian men against whom these crimes were levelled. There are many failing's highlighted in that article, including once again, the prosecutor's (Nazir Afzal, a muslim himself) naive and distractive claim that the exploitation, abduction, gang-rape and violence perpetrated by men of one particular ethnic origin against young girls of another ethnic origin, "has nothing to do with Islam". In the minds of those locals and others involved, this has everything to do with Islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I'm glad that Tarne made that post, although I don't necessarily agree with it. The problem surrounding all these child abuse accusations, is we need to decide what we mean by a child. The usual way of doing this is to set an age of consent. People under that age are treated as children and need protecting. People who have reached that age are deemed to know what they are doing. Well the fact of the matter is - people are different. As Tarne says, some 15 year olds have probably had more experience than anyone on this forum, and they are quite capable of looking after themselves. On the other hand, I'm sure that we all know some adults who are very naïve, and could do with some of the protection that we afford to children. To label someone a monster, just because they have been making approaches to a 15 year old is just too simplistic. There is no easy answer to this. The answer is don't go after 15 year olds. he might avoid a jail sentence but grooming is a serious offence so if he does avoid jail he us a lucky guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 The reason an arbitrary age is "set" for the age of consent is to allow making a case easier. 15 years, 11 months and 29 days....you're a bad person and you're up before the bench 16 years, 0 months and 1 day...you're creepy but a free person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 If it hadn't been a muslim man who shot all those people in San Bernadino would the FBI be wanting to crack into phones and would it be described as a terrorist attack or a massacre? Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 So if Rolf converts to Islam do you think they'll let him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 And then lock him up for terrorist offences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 So if Rolf converts to Islam do you think they'll let him out? If he'd commited his crimes in, e.g., Iran it'd never've reached court proceedings. https://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Contemporary_Pedophilic_Islamic_Marriages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Whereas he only got away with it for 50 years here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 So... is it ok for me as a 48 year old married man to try to shag a 25 year old barmaid? Of course. Is it of for me as a 48 year old married man to try shag a 15/16/17 year old? No. Er...actually Allan, the answer to both questions is 'no'. Actually the answer to the first question is yes and the answer to the second question is yes IF you don't have any sexual interactions with the 15 year old. If you find a younger consenting partner over the age of consent then the law does not give two monkeys about the age gap. Now morally that may seem weird and creepy but legally it's not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 So... is it ok for me as a 48 year old married man to try to shag a 25 year old barmaid? Of course. Is it of for me as a 48 year old married man to try shag a 15/16/17 year old? No. Er...actually Allan, the answer to both questions is 'no'. Actually the answer to the first question is yes and the answer to the second question is yes IF you don't have any sexual interactions with the 15 year old. If you find a younger consenting partner over the age of consent then the law does not give two monkeys about the age gap. Now morally that may seem weird and creepy but legally it's not an issue. Tweek said "No" because ScotsAlan is married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 dilligaf - I thought that was the case but even so it still comes down to a moral decision as long as the other party is over the age of consent. Of course ScotsAlans wife would probably have a very different view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 ... but even so it still comes down to a moral decision as long as the other party is over the age of consent. Yeah, right. So if a gorgeous, hot, over-the-age-of-consent teenie wants to shag you are you really saying you'd have to consider the morality of the occasion before you got your kit off? How old are you, 91 ..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Quilp, as long as she was over the age of consent and I was single then no I probably would not give it a second thought. Well apart from wondering what the hell she was interested in me for! No I am not 91 by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Remember this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1266664/Mandy-Smith-I-DID-sleep-Bill-Wyman-I-14--man-life-God.html Bill Wyman and Wendy Smith. There was another episode in the the 60's. Some American singer married a 13 year old in the American South, He was banned from bringing her to the UK. Cant rembemer the name. Jerry something.. It is wrong. Totally wrong. There has to be a line. Take ex Falkirk MP Eric Joyce. He alledgedly had an affair with a 17 year old: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113226/Teen-lover-MP-Eric-Joyce-reveals-clumsy-surreal-attempts-seduction.html Older people have a natural responsibilty to nuture the young, to prepare them for life. Not to nuture them for their own selfish sexual greed. But hold on. What about this story, about a female teacher taking advantage of a male pupil: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568580/Woman-schoolteacher-love-schoolboy-led-bed-narrowly-dodges-jail-sentence.html People in authority always have an opportunity to abuse. I think the UK law is just. It makes sense. And it protects the vulnerable. People with authority should be held to account. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osbornes-psychiatrist-brother-struck-7353480 So... is it ok for me as a 48 year old married man to try to shag a 25 year old barmaid? Of course. Is it of for me as a 48 year old married man to try shag a 15/16/17 year old? No. You've got this wrong Alan. The rule for finding a younger model is age/2+7, so you need a 31 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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