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I seriously doubt the UK will be allowed to leave, we now have to put up with all the fear porn on what horrible things MAY happen if we leave the EU, all the way up to the end of June. If this was for real then it would be a good opportunity to get off the Titanic....

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I want us to leave the EU. They have taken away too much of our (UK's and therefore IOM's) sovereignty and Cameron's deal doesn't do much to reverse that. As he said, leaving the EU wouldn't stop mass immigration. Why? Not just because we have a lot of left-wingers who believe in it for ideological reasons but because EU law has become such a great part of British law that it would take years to undo all the damage that's been done. I'm not buying into any of the scaremongering about trade. It doesn't affect trade at all.

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I must admit that I've been somewhat undecided on my own position on this. For a while I thought leaving was a good idea (despite being a British citizen leaving in another EU country) as too much interference and having to support poorer nations was a significant negative. However, I now think that staying in is the better idea. I think the populist and sensationalist media (Daily Mail, etc.) paints a rather false picture of the working of EU by highlighting a minority of odd EU laws that supposedly erode the "great British way of life", when the majority of EU legislation is rather dull, sensible and beneficial to those effected.

 

I do think that not being in the EU would be detrimental to the UK's economy and trade. Effectively there are three major markets in the World (USA, Asia and EU), the UK can compete due to being part of the EU. Once outside of the EU I believe that they would become a very small fish in a very big sea, the days of the Empire are very and truly over no matter what some of the old guard think. The rest of the EU could quite easily block UK trade as well. I can help think that Boris would have been in favour of staying in if Cameron was in favouring a leaving, that is just political gesturing.

 

Interesting times.

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You do get the impression that Cameron probably bullied Boris at school and Boris has spent the rest of his life plotting revenge.

According to Boris HQ it was very much the other way around - Boris was head boy and top dog.

 

According to Wikipedia they're also 8th cousins and both also related to the Queen and most of the European royal families.

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I want us to leave the EU. They have taken away too much of our (UK's and therefore IOM's) sovereignty and Cameron's deal doesn't do much to reverse that. As he said, leaving the EU wouldn't stop mass immigration. Why? Not just because we have a lot of left-wingers who believe in it for ideological reasons but because EU law has become such a great part of British law that it would take years to undo all the damage that's been done. I'm not buying into any of the scaremongering about trade. It doesn't affect trade at all.

 

If you look in Tynwald Library you will see boxes and boxes of papers showing just how much "Common Market/Economic Community/European Economic Community and EU" law, directives and other obligations have become part of the Isle of Man's legislation and obligations in various ways.

 

The Isle of Man signed the Maastrict Treaty when Sir Miles Walker was Chief Minister. I asked to see it and they gave it to me after I made an appointment...None the wiser it is well nigh impossible to interpret!...

 

And let us not forget that the Island wanted to do something about bread imports and prices and it had to go to the European Commission for a decision..And then there was the withdrawal of special derogation on meat imports and prices.....

 

You are far deeper "in" than many realise.

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You do get the impression that Cameron probably bullied Boris at school and Boris has spent the rest of his life plotting revenge.

According to Boris HQ it was very much the other way around - Boris was head boy and top dog.

 

According to Wikipedia they're also 8th cousins and both also related to the Queen and most of the European royal families.

 

 

Good spot that article ...

 

The best way to understand Boris and Dave is a story they both tell in private. It's about a meeting in No 10 on some minor aspect of the London budget. Dave wants to minimise his spending; Boris to get the most cash he can.

 

The PM has a briefing paper that reveals the most he's prepared to give Boris. Boris wants to see it. The PM refuses. Boris tries to grab it. The PM snatches it away.

 

The Prime Minister and the Mayor of London end up wrestling on the floor trying to seize the paper.

And the vital detail is that each man tells the story that he got the paper. Even in a slightly juvenile squabble, they both want people to know that they won over the other.

 

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I want us to leave the EU. They have taken away too much of our (UK's and therefore IOM's) sovereignty and Cameron's deal doesn't do much to reverse that. As he said, leaving the EU wouldn't stop mass immigration. Why? Not just because we have a lot of left-wingers who believe in it for ideological reasons but because EU law has become such a great part of British law that it would take years to undo all the damage that's been done. I'm not buying into any of the scaremongering about trade. It doesn't affect trade at all.

 

If you look in Tynwald Library you will see boxes and boxes of papers showing just how much "Common Market/Economic Community/European Economic Community and EU" law, directives and other obligations have become part of the Isle of Man's legislation and obligations in various ways.

 

The Isle of Man signed the Maastrict Treaty when Sir Miles Walker was Chief Minister. I asked to see it and they gave it to me after I made an appointment...None the wiser it is well nigh impossible to interpret!...

 

And let us not forget that the Island wanted to do something about bread imports and prices and it had to go to the European Commission for a decision..And then there was the withdrawal of special derogation on meat imports and prices.....

 

You are far deeper "in" than many realise.

So what? The majority of what the eu stands for is great. It is the rest that we can do without. That majority, the good stuff, was already in place prior to Maastricht.
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I must admit that I've been somewhat undecided on my own position on this. For a while I thought leaving was a good idea (despite being a British citizen leaving in another EU country) as too much interference and having to support poorer nations was a significant negative. However, I now think that staying in is the better idea. I think the populist and sensationalist media (Daily Mail, etc.) paints a rather false picture of the working of EU by highlighting a minority of odd EU laws that supposedly erode the "great British way of life", when the majority of EU legislation is rather dull, sensible and beneficial to those effected.

 

I do think that not being in the EU would be detrimental to the UK's economy and trade. Effectively there are three major markets in the World (USA, Asia and EU), the UK can compete due to being part of the EU. Once outside of the EU I believe that they would become a very small fish in a very big sea, the days of the Empire are very and truly over no matter what some of the old guard think. The rest of the EU could quite easily block UK trade as well. I can help think that Boris would have been in favour of staying in if Cameron was in favouring a leaving, that is just political gesturing.

 

Interesting times.

UK is the 5th largest economy in the world. It is fanciful to suggest that it can only compete due to being in the EU. The EU actually harms competitiveness. As for the EU blocking trade with EU countries, well they could, but since we run a massive trade deficit with them they would kick us in the balls while shooting themselves through the heart by doing so. Are they going to do that?

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12043677/UKs-trade-deficit-in-goods-with-EU-hits-record-high.html

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Pound falls below $1.39 as economists warn Brexit could hammer households www.telegraph.co.uk

 

I was converting USD into sterling this morning. $1 now gets me 70p.

 

UK is the 5th largest economy in the world.

Partly thanks to Britain's membership of the EU.

 

Most people are Euro-sceptics to some degree. But very few economists are arguing that a British exit would definitely boost British business. Most believe that it would likely have a negative effect. And more than that - the process of transition would take decades -- a long period of economic and business uncertainty.

 

It's worth remembering that, thanks to the EU, London is the world's largest exporter of financial services. A business which the IOM indirectly benefits from.

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