thesultanofsheight Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, dilligaf said: I am self employed. Very few, if any MHK's are working for the tax payer. JE is not one of them. Yesterday you called me a troll, yet you are now commenting on every post I make. what gives ? I think JE has kicked off something important. You are a troll. But there's nobody else posting now all the other trolls have gone away. So I'm sorry. It's just you and me currently. Is that ok? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, thesultanofsheight said: I think JE has kicked off something important. You are a troll. But there's nobody else posting now all the other trolls have gone away. So I'm sorry. It's just you and me currently. Is that ok? I don't even known a troll is supposed to be for fuck's sake. It is rather quiet in here ATM though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dilligaf said: I don't even known a troll is supposed to be for fuck's sake. It is rather quiet in here ATM though. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll i have a few good bottles of Merlot left if you want to bypass the internet? It's like a pub after last orders here the way it's emptying out. Edited June 22, 2017 by thesultanofsheight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Bromance blossoms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integrity Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 INTO THE LONG GRASS. Our new team of legislators, have failed the people of the Isle of Man. Their manifesto's at election time screamed for reform The reforms recommended in this report have the support of the people of the Isle of Man. Our masters made sure that this was discussed twelve months after they made sure our new members were given government responsibilities. This lot are not for reform, it only took twelve months to find them out. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 10 hours ago, integrity said: INTO THE LONG GRASS. Our new team of legislators, have failed the people of the Isle of Man. Their manifesto's at election time screamed for reform The reforms recommended in this report have the support of the people of the Isle of Man. Our masters made sure that this was discussed twelve months after they made sure our new members were given government responsibilities. This lot are not for reform, it only took twelve months to find them out. So our current crop of self-serving, nest-feathering, work-shy MHKs can't be trusted to tell the truth or deliver on promises? How very unoriginal. Consistency prevails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall when Lord Lisvane found out who of the people he interviewed on the Isle of Man became Chief Minister. Mr Lisvane seems a nice well brought up chap and I'm sure he doesn't use profanities, but I am sure he would have found a latin phrase for "well fuck me sideways with a kipper" Edited July 24, 2017 by gettafa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, gettafa said: I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall when Lord Lisvane found out who of the people he interviewed on the Isle of Man became Chief Minister. Mr Lisvane seems a nice well brought up chap and I'm sure he doesn't use profanities, but I am sure he would have found a latin phrase for "well fuck me sideways with a kipper" My Latin has pretty well withered on the vine these days, and I'm not sure there is a Latin equivalent of "kipper", so it might be something like: Pedicabo me, atque in latus per kipper. Or replace kipper with "A parvis argentea et fumabat in mare Hibernicum Pisces capiuntur ramenta quercu". "A small silvery fish caught in the Irish Sea and then smoked over oak shavings". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 On 22/06/2017 at 11:21 PM, dilligaf said: I don't even known a troll is supposed to be for fuck's sake. It is rather quiet in here ATM though. nottys current ban will be up soon, get ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yes I think that would more or less work: Lord Lisvane: "Good Gracious, that chap Qualye became Chief Minister of the Isle of Man!! Well fuck me sideways with 1 hour ago, Uhtred said: "A small silvery fish caught in the Irish Sea and then smoked over oak shavings". A bit verbose admittedly but it would get the right emotion across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 The island is in a complete and utter mess, mainly of its own making, but also suffering along with the rest of the world. Yet one of our elected politicians is obsessed with the removal of the Bishop from Tynwald and the Legislative Council, Joney Faragher on the NPM want’s legislation drawn up. Very admirable, but I’m afraid at this moment in time it’s hardly a priority. The island has a lot of issues which a) need attention and b) needs legislation. Perhaps Joney Faragher can concentrate on the after effects, and fallout of the Rosalind Ransom Tribunal, which has cot the island both financially, morally and reputationally. Incidentally I don’t think the Bishop should have a seat within the islands legislature, but at present it’s part of the system, heritage and uniqueness of the island. I’m sure legislation can be introduced when circumstances allow, and other issues have been dealt with. This island has far more serious issues, and doesn’t need this navel gazing nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 I agree. It's a bit of a distraction at the moment and an easy target when the focus should be elsewhere. The bishop should definitely not have a seat in Tynwald but he's nothing to do with the current shambles. This is the wrong time to be raising this and I'd be more impressed if she concentrated her fire on the DHSC and the Ranson case fall-out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: I agree. It's a bit of a distraction at the moment and an easy target when the focus should be elsewhere. The bishop should definitely not have a seat in Tynwald but he's nothing to do with the current shambles. This is the wrong time to be raising this and I'd be more impressed if she concentrated her fire on the DHSC and the Ranson case fall-out. Agree it’s a distraction. Lisvane was a waste of time/money. He didn’t understand the importance of Tynwald in our system and he was bamboozled by the Keys to downplay MLC’s. What we need is an elected second chamber, with Tynwald having qualified majority in case of conflict. We also need only one political member, the minister, per department. Each department or statutory board needs a select committee shadowing and holding to account. The select committees should be elected by back benchers only. No votes by CoMin or Statutory Board chairs. CoMin not to belong to select committees. We also, desperately require pre election party or election blocs standing on common platforms so the electorate has a real policy choice. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, John Wright said: Agree it’s a distraction. Lisvane was a waste of time/money. He didn’t understand the importance of Tynwald in our system and he was bamboozled by the Keys to downplay MLC’s. What we need is an elected second chamber, with Tynwald having qualified majority in case of conflict. We also need only one political member, the minister, per department. Each department or statutory board needs a select committee shadowing and holding to account. The select committees should be elected by back benchers only. No votes by CoMin or Statutory Board chairs. CoMin not to belong to select committees. We also, desperately require pre election party or election blocs standing on common platforms so the electorate has a real policy choice. I agree. What you suggest could have been introduced on a piecemeal basis, gradually without upsetting the system. I don’t there is a desire, it’s certain individuals who it really riles. Unfortunately now, Legco has become a body, not so much as before for MHKs, for ex civil servants and friends of politicos and the establishment. The Bishop sitting within Legco and Tynwald is now irrelevant, but his voting right is dangerous. Has anyone seen any of our MLCs actually coming out with a) any useful comment or observation relating to the cost of living, Manx Gas ………… and b) the DHSC and Manx Care? Like the Lord Bishop, on some matters, they are as quiet as church mice. Edited May 14, 2023 by 2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Cant understand Joney Faragher jumping on this bandwagon again , when those at the bottom of the social pile on the isle of man have literally never had it so bad , it seems strange that a so called socialist politician appears to be be doing nothing about the major crisis in the cost of living , the waste of money and resources in most government departments and the huge bloat and over staffing right across government ,which if properly addressed ,would free up financial support for those struggling , cant see how getting rid of the Bishop is going to solve anything, and his historic presence in Tynwald is far in access or any MHK and spans almost 1000 years Joney please get your priorities right ! there are enough one trick ponies in Tynwald as it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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