P.K. Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Precisely. The armed forces are an extension of foreign policy by other means... Clauswicz? I'm sure there will be absolutely NO surprises in the report... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Blimey, I thought I'd download the report to have a scan through it but even the executive summary is 150 pages! I guess no one can deny it is thorough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 one of the naval commanders round about that time was on channel 4 news earlier. he was instructed to ready minesweepers for it nearly a year before it was even mentioned. there was plenty of forward planning. in this case sort of mystic meg-ish. he was not called to give evidence to the enquiry p&o ferry which ran on spain, staff on board knew 6 months before that it was going to be taken out of service and used as a troop carrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 the only thing they really had to leave until past the last minute lest people getting wind of it was the kit for the soldiers they were sending out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Precisely. The armed forces are an extension of foreign policy by other means... Clauswicz? . Correct..."War is the continuation of politics by other means". I think he also coined the phrase "the fog of war". Interesting that he's famous for analyzing/debating the moral and political dimensions of war and comparing/contrasting them. Mr. Blair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutney Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Could of would of should of brigade will be out in force. Nothing like a lynching to satisfy the blood lust. ......and the could of, would of, should of brigade should have be lynched by the Grammar Police ! As the great man said "Grammar, I dont have time to grammar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 To me it showed the British military were just not up to the job when it came to being an occupying force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 To me it showed the British military were just not up to the job when it came to being an occupying force Well surprise surprise it's not what you train for. You have sort-of more pressing matters to attend to like staying alive and killing the enemy. Thats what the military do. Keeping the peace is up to the politicians and the civilian authorities who were both totally inadequate. However the likes of Muqtada al-sadr didn't exactly help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanxfella Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I can't stand even looking at the Blair pictures in the papers. That guy is going to have to have a security fire wall round him for life just to stop him getting assassinated. Evil piece of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Just that he also allowed people to needlessly die in order to achieve particular political goals. The kind of actions that with hindsight should ,could, or maybe if you were in charge would of been avoided. These decisions are especially easy to judge and condemn when your sat in an armchair and the biggest decision you face is peas or beans with tea. If you dont want to die for someone elses political ambition then dont join the army. Precisely. The armed forces are an extension of foreign policy, and policy is the province of politicians. We all know how honest, reliable, diligent, truthful and well-meaning they are, don't we? Foreign policy isn't really the province of politicians. Foreign policy is the province of banks, corporations and very wealthy individuals/families. Politicians just do their bidding to have their egos flattered and to hopefully get some crumbs off the top table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 It certainly appears to be much more critical than expected. Fully expected it to be an absolute whitewash. Gonna have to think really hard to come up with a conspiracy spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 so far it has said nothing that was not known anyway. the couple of correspondences i have read so far are worded in the same sort of way that i would write them a few years after the event. they tick every box without insulting the plebs intelligence too much. lessons will be learned blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 i predict gerry will be nearer to the actual truth than most on this subject. he will of course be shot down in flames by the pistachio gallery whilst confirmed peanut gallerias like myself on the couple of tiers below try to protect him from those hard shells Just wait until us lot in the coconut gallery get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 i heard rumours of a coconut gallery. never quite believed it existed until now. i had dreams of one day making it to the cashew circle, knew i wasnt right for the pistachio level above that and that was as far as i could see. i feel you have let me down a little here gerry. you must have known? i'm out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 to buy a big bag of peanuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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