hillshepherd Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Troops all over turkey television taken over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Sounds like the end of Erdogan. The Turkish military is very secular (following the tradition of Ataturk), I guess they got pissed off with Erdogan's increasing religious stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillshepherd Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Sounds like the end of Erdogan. The Turkish military is very secular (following the tradition of Ataturk), I guess they got pissed off with Erdogan's increasing religious stance.cant blame them,seemed very dictatorial the way he ran the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 There were 4 military coups between 1960 and 1998. Each time the excuse offered by the military was to retain the secularism of Mustafa Kemal. Ataturk was hardly a democrat any way. Turkey was a one party state until 1945. The difference now may be the growth of religious extremism, and the refugee crisis. The military may find control much more difficult this time around. This marks the end of Turkeys EU membership application. Another out campaign bogeyman claim bites the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Hardly a democrat, as you state but Ataturk believed that a secular government ws the way forward for Turkey. Is there no bright side to Brexit for you Johnnie? In reality, no-one really knows where the out vote will lead. Not even you dear boy ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ataturk laid down the historic instruction to act against any government that became too non-secular (i.e. Muslim, can't see Judaism taking hold there!). Its the way the previous coups kicked off in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/754067608547229697 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Hardly a democrat, as you state but Ataturk believed that a secular government ws the way forward for Turkey. Is there no bright side to Brexit for you Johnnie? In reality, no-one really knows where the out vote will lead. Not even you dear boy ... I didn't express a view one way or the other. I stated a fact. Brexiteers warned of an influx of millions of Turks in a few years. The coup means turkey won't be progressing its application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillshepherd Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Looks like greece and by extension the EUSSR have now become the proud owners of another half a million IMMIGRANTS,we are well out of that mess of adolph merkels,brick the tunnel up and put patrol boats in the channel (got no boats) fucking build them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I don't know how well a coup can work in an era of digital communications. Turkey is a different place than in the 1980s, Erogan has a lot of support, especially in Anatolia, while the cities are both Democratic and secular. It will be interesting to see which way those two forces pull. One way will be against the coup one way will be for it. I wonder what has precipitated it now. I hope it is peaceful. The last thing we need is another civil war in the Middle East! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Hardly a democrat, as you state but Ataturk believed that a secular government ws the way forward for Turkey. Is there no bright side to Brexit for you Johnnie? In reality, no-one really knows where the out vote will lead. Not even you dear boy ... I didn't express a view one way or the other. I stated a fact. Brexiteers warned of an influx of millions of Turks in a few years. The coup means turkey won't be progressing its application. Apologies. It was the, "another out campaign bogeyman claim bites the dust" wot threw me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Looks like the coup has failed. If they had wanted to divide the country and bring political uncertainty all they had to do was have a referendum. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Looks like the coup has failed. If they had wanted to divide the country and bring political uncertainty all they had to do was have a referendum. ;-) A referendum does not divide a country. It simply displays divisions that are already there. Better to have them out in the open than festering ignored in the shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrydandridge Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Looks like the coup has failed. If they had wanted to divide the country and bring political uncertainty all they had to do was have a referendum. ;-) They kind of have to take notice of a coup, unlike a referendum as we have just witnessed here, perhaps they thought that Eurdogan was not the referendum type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Well, that was a storm in a teacup, didn't even last the weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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