woolley Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Well, that was a storm in a teacup, didn't even last the weekend! It shows the place is on a knife edge, though. Erdogan stands for creeping Islamisation of the secular state. It could again become a deal breaker for the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Well, that was a storm in a teacup, didn't even last the weekend! Lasted a lifetime for the 160 people killed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 its the leaders of the coup i feel sorry for. conditions are tough enough for normal prisoners in turkey. the birch is dished out for good behaviour there. it's the equivalent of a playstation 4 at the jurby hilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 There were 4 military coups between 1960 and 1998. Each time the excuse offered by the military was to retain the secularism of Mustafa Kemal. Ataturk was hardly a democrat any way. Turkey was a one party state until 1945. The difference now may be the growth of religious extremism, and the refugee crisis. The military may find control much more difficult this time around. This marks the end of Turkeys EU membership application. Another out campaign bogeyman claim bites the dust. Democracy is is what enabled the rise of Islamists there. Secularism in that country is far more important and it's good the army want to protect that. The Islamisation of Turkey is a fact and it hasn't bitten any dust. Europe itself is undergoing Islamisation and we're well rid of them and can address the Islamisation in our own country without being bound by EU dictates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Erm Woolley and Gerry, it was a tongue in cheek joke. Please lighten up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 all this talk from the british government of backing and showing support for a democratically elected government? how's that work then? anywhere else and they would be calling for regime change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36838347 and that's that nicely nipped in the bud.. may well become the future blueprint for intelligence services everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 though if you live in turkey you cant read them https://www.wired.com/2016/07/wikileaks-dumps-erdogan-emails-turkeys-failed-coup/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Erm Woolley and Gerry, it was a tongue in cheek joke. Please lighten up. I thought it might be but you can never tell on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Sensational intelligence find in Turkey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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