rmanx Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Logic can't prove a negative. Saying we haven't been nuked because we have nukes is a causal link, in the same way as my magic stone and leopards. Twist all you like but my analogy is sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 He's hardly going to change his illogical version of logic now. It shines out of every post he ever made. Ad hominem...really? Poor show old fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Logic can't prove a negative. Saying we haven't been nuked because we have nukes is a causal link, in the same way as my magic stone and leopards. Twist all you like but my analogy is sound. You can't disprove a negative either, so if that's the way you want to go we're at somewhat of an impasse. A more rational route to go down would be to theorise whether it's likely to help or not. For which I think the analogy of guns where the bullets take 10seconds to arrive and don't miss is useful. In that case you're not going to shoot someone who has a gun, because they will kill you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Logic can't prove a negative. Saying we haven't been nuked because we have nukes is a causal link, in the same way as my magic stone and leopards. Twist all you like but my analogy is sound. You can't disprove a negative either, so if that's the way you want to go we're at somewhat of an impasse. A more rational route to go down would be to theorise whether it's likely to help or not. For which I think the analogy of guns where the bullets take 10seconds to arrive and don't miss is useful. In that case you're not going to shoot someone who has a gun, because they will kill you too. Your analogy fails to take into account scaling. Is your bullet travelling half way around the world and hitting a target the size of a door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Logic can't prove a negative. Saying we haven't been nuked because we have nukes is a causal link, in the same way as my magic stone and leopards. Twist all you like but my analogy is sound. You can't disprove a negative either, so if that's the way you want to go we're at somewhat of an impasse. A more rational route to go down would be to theorise whether it's likely to help or not. For which I think the analogy of guns where the bullets take 10seconds to arrive and don't miss is useful. In that case you're not going to shoot someone who has a gun, because they will kill you too. Your analogy fails to take into account scaling. Is your bullet travelling half way around the world and hitting a target the size of a door? No, see, you're thinking about after it's stopped being a deterrent again. If you reasonably believe that by firing your slow gun at someone you will end up dead at the hands of their slow gun, you're not going to do it are you? Neither gun is going to be fired because neither person is keen on ceasing to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Well done Helix for having the patience to play the stupid game. It's like trying to explain to the the infant why the large box won't go into the small box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Don't stop, it's highly entertaining. Mind you that's only because it's a wet afternoon...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I have a magic rock that protects from leopard attack. Until a leopard attacks me, I'll have to assume its my magic rock protecting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 People that believe in M.A.D. as a concept of peace are people that get emotionally involved when watching spiderman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 150 is more than enough. I love trident More than enough for what? If they ever get used (and if they work), you'll long be either vaporised or wasting away to a painful radiation sickness death to even know what effect they will have. Whats not to love eh? My response was to you talking about Russia and the US having 10 times or whatever. I'm simply saying 150 is more than enough. 10000 makes no difference to 150 really. That was more my point. That Vanguard class Sub is a wonderful bit of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 People that believe in M.A.D. as a concept of peace are people that get emotionally involved when watching spiderman. It is a concept of peace. Man is not grown up enough to live in peace unless he's terrified out of his wits. That's why it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 terrified people also show a great increase in killer instict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 But they don't indulge it because it's their own arse on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 But they don't indulge it because it's their own arse on the line. Suicide bombers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 But they don't indulge it because it's their own arse on the line. Suicide bombers? Don't have nuclear weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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