Lxxx Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said: Deary, deary me........ it gets worse. "He was surprised to learn before they submitted the final bid that they would be expected to take on a ’key’ individual within DED who would receive 5 per cent of whatever growth was generated. He confirmed this was a ’done deal’ between the DED and that individual." Isn't that borderline illegal? For a government employee to openly and contractually pocket a proportion of the profit on a commercial deal? I know we're used to this thing happening in brown envelopes but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Its secret because they know they've done something wrong. What is this 5% of growth payment to a member of DED? That sounds dodgy as fuck. The figures of what the TT brings to the isle of man in terms of money are always vague, so quite how they'd measure this is beyond me. Everyone knew at the time that this vision 9 thing was a mistake, what appears clear now though is that someone with some fucking sense IS required to take over the running of this event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Everyone knew at the time that this vision 9 thing was a mistake, what appears clear now though is that someone with some fucking sense IS required to take over the running of this event. Laurence Skelly is my recommendation. Got some great ideas that bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 37 minutes ago, Lxxx said: Isn't that borderline illegal? For a government employee to openly and contractually pocket a proportion of the profit on a commercial deal? I know we're used to this thing happening in brown envelopes but.... The individual in question was to resign DED and join the successful bidder. Sounds to me as if, as a bidder, you declined to even employ that individual (let alone agree to an arbitrary calculated 5% growth) then the chances are that you wouldn't be awarded the contract. That's a very strange way of doing business and certainly not textbook or even a conventional procurement process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannin1 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Did he resign from the DED ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 47 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: The individual in question was to resign DED and join the successful bidder. Sounds to me as if, as a bidder, you declined to even employ that individual (let alone agree to an arbitrary calculated 5% growth) then the chances are that you wouldn't be awarded the contract. That's a very strange way of doing business and certainly not textbook or even a conventional procurement process. I'm sure whoever it was wouldn't be foregoing his or her perks, continuous service and government pension contributions to move across to a random organisation who'd just popped up a few months before. Unless he/she had other links to said company. The whole thing is dodgy as fuck and needs smoking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck of Atholl Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 So someone employed by DED was going to go to the successful bidder with a guaranteed 5% cut of "the growth" which was already agreed between DED and the said person? Did DED have the right/power to cut that deal? Why would they do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, The Duck of Atholl said: So someone employed by DED was going to go to the successful bidder with a guaranteed 5% cut of "the growth" which was already agreed between DED and the said person? Did DED have the right/power to cut that deal? Why would they do that? Because it's 'The Isle of Man, Where You Can.... do whatever you want with impunity'. If you're on the inside. I can see the merits in embedding a government employee into a partner organisation on secondment, in such a new venture for the island... but taking a cut of any profits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The irony is that this strange arrangement (which sounds quite similar to the Christian & Pinewood arrangement) might have gone unnoticed if DED had consulted with other departments. Had they got all the departments onside then it might just have gone through on the nod and we'd have been none the wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I'm sure there will be no stone left unturned once vision 9's evidence is heard in private. No sireee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 A short application time from announcement, the job must have already been allocated.... http://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/45k-job-for-tt-production-manager/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Dear funking christ on a bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 £45k? That's not enough, I want £45k + 5% of any profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 And now we see that part of the hearing will be in private..... quelle surprise! Pourquoi? This is getting worserer and worserer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Quite simply? To cover Skelly, Cretney & Co's arses. And Mr 5% Man. And doubtless the losses to sort out the debacle where applicable. Then lessons will be learned, nothing to see here, move along. As always. Ad infinitum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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