WTF Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Coud someone please clarify the "actual " Cruise ship spend into the IOM for 2015-16 please? one vendor that was on the radio last week sells quite a lot of fridge magnets to these cruise people..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 The Isle of Man saw 5,400 visitors on 17 cruise ships last year, generating £3 a head in harbour dues any on island spend is guesswork, most spend nothing Most don't spend " nothing ". When was the last time you went anywhere on holiday, went into a town or area for a day, and spent nothing? That is fucking nonsense I'm afraid. BTW - I'm not saying a Terminal is a good idea or viable. But please, let's dispense with this total bollocks that passengers don't spend any money. They're on holiday FFS on a cruise going ashore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) The Isle of Man saw 5,400 visitors on 17 cruise ships last year, generating £3 a head in harbour dues any on island spend is guesswork, most spend nothing Most don't spend " nothing ". When was the last time you went anywhere on holiday, went into a town or area for a day, and spent nothing? That is fucking nonsense I'm afraid. BTW - I'm not saying a Terminal is a good idea or viable. But please, let's dispense with this total bollocks that passengers don't spend any money. They're on holiday FFS on a cruise going ashore. They don't. If they spend £20 you're lucky. There is literally nothing to spend any money on. Edited January 26, 2017 by hboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 The Isle of Man saw 5,400 visitors on 17 cruise ships last year, generating £3 a head in harbour dues any on island spend is guesswork, most spend nothing Ok actual quantifiable fact's 16k harbour dues and accepting hboy's tenner a head spend on island making a total of 70 grand for the year! So how does any sane person square that with Mr Ugland's statement that "potentially" (I love that word!) 60000 passengers per year spending 60 quid each " could" add 36million a year to the Manx economy! By the way the 2010 TT brought 19 million into the Manx economy in the fortnight according to IOM Govs figures, yet people complain that it's loss making!! So setting aside the fact that the proposed location looks to have been chosen purely for the fact that the water is deep enough and no account taken of tidal conditions and added to the lack of any credible business case being put forward you have to say that this saga äppears" to have the "potential to exceed the Bendybus and Choo Choo fiascos fiasco by a very long margin !! F*cking great entertainment though!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 By the way the 2010 TT brought 19 million into the Manx economy in the fortnight according to IOM Govs figures, yet people complain that it's loss making!! That's worth re quoting. The whole business case is total bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Paging all fridge magnet manufacturers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 And tee towels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 And tee towels But not TT T-Towels as that would mean the DED would be involved. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 .........do you recall the consultants saying that the 'new' marina in Ramsey would bring in 300 coachloads a week?........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 No. I went to the presentation and I don't recall any such comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 The Isle of Man saw 5,400 visitors on 17 cruise ships last year, generating £3 a head in harbour dues any on island spend is guesswork, most spend nothing Ok actual quantifiable fact's 16k harbour dues and accepting hboy's tenner a head spend on island making a total of 70 grand for the year! So how does any sane person square that with Mr Ugland's statement that "potentially" (I love that word!) 60000 passengers per year spending 60 quid each " could" add 36million a year to the Manx economy! By the way the 2010 TT brought 19 million into the Manx economy in the fortnight according to IOM Govs figures, yet people complain that it's loss making!! So setting aside the fact that the proposed location looks to have been chosen purely for the fact that the water is deep enough and no account taken of tidal conditions and added to the lack of any credible business case being put forward you have to say that this saga äppears" to have the "potential to exceed the Bendybus and Choo Choo fiascos fiasco by a very long margin !! F*cking great entertainment though!! How do you know that IOMSA haven't taken account of the tidal conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I was looking out to sea in Port Erin today, you can see how far the breakwater used to extend. Did it get built and destroyed twice? I wonder if with today's construction techniques whether it could be rebuilt strong enough to withstand the conditions down there? And if so whether they could incorporate a landing stage? It doesn't have to be in Douglas does it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) .........do you recall the consultants saying that the 'new' marina in Ramsey would bring in 300 coachloads a week?........... I can find nothing of the sort. Did you just make it up? (Not trying to be mean, just actually curious if that was said, and I just can't anything about it) Separately I did find a Ramsey Regeneration scheme from 2009 where they questioned people in town, and it really does back up the knowledge that people in Ramsey are fucking morons. "C off gulls and pigeons." "Lge tub to put in loose change then use money for trees when all trees planted use money for other local issues people like to contribute if they see results." "What is the meaning of red/ blue/ grey cars?" "Somewhere needs a large glassed in cafe so that people can see the view of the and [sic] have food and coffee. It’s always so windy in Isle of Man" Can you imagine if there was a public consultation on a cruise ship berth? "WHAT ABOUT TEH FISHS" Edited January 26, 2017 by Tarne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I was looking out to sea in Port Erin today, you can see how far the breakwater used to extend. Did it get built and destroyed twice? I wonder if with today's construction techniques whether it could be rebuilt strong enough to withstand the conditions down there? And if so whether they could incorporate a landing stage? It doesn't have to be in Douglas does it? EVERYTHING has to be in Douglas or not at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 .........do you recall the consultants saying that the 'new' marina in Ramsey would bring in 300 coachloads a week?........... I can find nothing of the sort. Did you just make it up? (Not trying to be mean, just actually curious if that was said, and I just can't anything about it) Separately I did find a Ramsey Regeneration scheme from 2009 where they questioned people in town, and it really does back up the knowledge that people in Ramsey are fucking morons. "C off gulls and pigeons." "Lge tub to put in loose change then use money for trees when all trees planted use money for other local issues people like to contribute if they see results." "What is the meaning of red/ blue/ grey cars?" "Somewhere needs a large glassed in cafe so that people can see the view of the and [sic] have food and coffee. Its always so windy in Isle of Man" Can you imagine if there was a public consultation on a cruise ship berth? "WHAT ABOUT TEH FISHS" Were those answers from the questionnaire that Wilfy Young completed....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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