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I was looking out to sea in Port Erin today, you can see how far the breakwater used to extend. Did it get built and destroyed twice? I wonder if with today's construction techniques whether it could be rebuilt strong enough to withstand the conditions down there? And if so whether they could incorporate a landing stage? It doesn't have to be in Douglas does it?

 

The Francis Frith Collection has 71 photos of Victorian/Edwardian Port Erin. And as far as I can see the breakwater wasn't of a particularly large construction.

 

But I agree, why this proposed project should be Douglas centric should be questioned. Someone mentioned Peel before.

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I was looking out to sea in Port Erin today, you can see how far the breakwater used to extend. Did it get built and destroyed twice? I wonder if with today's construction techniques whether it could be rebuilt strong enough to withstand the conditions down there? And if so whether they could incorporate a landing stage? It doesn't have to be in Douglas does it?

 

The Francis Frith Collection has 71 photos of Victorian/Edwardian Port Erin. And as far as I can see the breakwater wasn't of a particularly large construction.

Pt Erin breakwater lasted just five years iirc. When you see the size of the blocks the sea threw around you start to appreciate the forces involved in such an enterprise.

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.........do you recall the consultants saying that the 'new' marina in Ramsey would bring in 300 coachloads a week?...........

 

I can find nothing of the sort. Did you just make it up? (Not trying to be mean, just actually curious if that was said, and I just can't anything about it)

 

Separately I did find a Ramsey Regeneration scheme from 2009 where they questioned people in town, and it really does back up the knowledge that people in Ramsey are fucking morons.

 

"C off gulls and pigeons."

"Lge tub to put in loose change then use money for trees when all trees planted use money for other local issues people like to contribute if they see results."

"What is the meaning of red/ blue/ grey cars?"

"Somewhere needs a large glassed in cafe so that people can see the view of the and [sic] have food and coffee. Its always so windy in Isle of Man"

Can you imagine if there was a public consultation on a cruise ship berth?

 

"WHAT ABOUT TEH FISHS"

Your other stupid character had already made this point.

 

Why do you need to pile in again as someone else?

Dig dig dig dig.

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The Isle of Man saw 5,400 visitors on 17 cruise ships last year, generating £3 a head in harbour dues

 

any on island spend is guesswork, most spend nothing

 

Ok actual quantifiable fact's 16k harbour dues and accepting hboy's tenner a head spend on island making a total of 70 grand for the year!

 

So how does any sane person square that with Mr Ugland's statement that "potentially" (I love that word!) 60000 passengers per year spending 60 quid each " could" add 36million a year to the Manx economy!

 

By the way the 2010 TT brought 19 million into the Manx economy in the fortnight according to IOM Govs figures, yet people complain that it's loss making!!

 

So setting aside the fact that the proposed location looks to have been chosen purely for the fact that the water is deep enough and no account taken of tidal conditions and added to the lack of any credible business case being put forward you have to say that this saga äppears" to have the "potential to exceed the Bendybus and Choo Choo fiascos fiasco by a very long margin !!

 

F*cking great entertainment though!!

 

 

How do you know that IOMSA haven't taken account of the tidal conditions?

 

 

IOMSA has already posted on here so is obviously keeping abreast of feelings on this issue, so if he could come back on and clarify yes or no would be great !!

 

I'll have a grand bet with you now Andy ,that I and most Douglas Butties know more about the Area behind Douglas Head and it's tides than Mark Robershaw .Lars Ugland and Terry Toohey combined !!

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The Isle of Man saw 5,400 visitors on 17 cruise ships last year, generating £3 a head in harbour dues

 

any on island spend is guesswork, most spend nothing

 

Ok actual quantifiable fact's 16k harbour dues and accepting hboy's tenner a head spend on island making a total of 70 grand for the year!

 

So how does any sane person square that with Mr Ugland's statement that "potentially" (I love that word!) 60000 passengers per year spending 60 quid each " could" add 36million a year to the Manx economy!

 

By the way the 2010 TT brought 19 million into the Manx economy in the fortnight according to IOM Govs figures, yet people complain that it's loss making!!

 

So setting aside the fact that the proposed location looks to have been chosen purely for the fact that the water is deep enough and no account taken of tidal conditions and added to the lack of any credible business case being put forward you have to say that this saga äppears" to have the "potential to exceed the Bendybus and Choo Choo fiascos fiasco by a very long margin !!

 

F*cking great entertainment though!!

 

 

How do you know that IOMSA haven't taken account of the tidal conditions?

 

 

If the IOMSA have taken account of tidal conditions and the state of the sea in that area and still tink they could successfully berth a ship there, then they shouldn't really be in a business that concerns anything maritime

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