english zloty Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Is this guy spouting shite on the radio any relation to Chris 'we're skint but extend the tramway' Robertshaw... Hmm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Is this guy spouting shite on the radio any relation to Chris 'we're skint but extend the tramway' Robertshaw... Hmm... Yep ............. it's not what you know but who you know 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) If ever there was a radio show full of vested interests and government propaganda it is Sunday Opinion. Today's is totally biased. Have MR sought an opposing viewpoint? Even somebody just to play devils advocate? MNH Southworth will extol this scheme a) he is paid to anyway b) MNH have a vested interests in this project and c) I'm sure Southworth will get time off in lieu to attend MR and no doubt will be promoting the scheme on the Moanin Line. With so many vested interests running the show, no wonder we are fcuked! Even worse, Tynpotwalders don't have the bottle to ask questions, they are merely nodding dogs MNH and the Coach firms will be the main local benificiaries here ,not many others I think ? The Manx gov have spent long millions over the years on MNH attractions which great though they are to have, do not turn profit Passengers bussed around MNH sites and back to the ship would obviously make those attractions look not quite such a waste of taxpayer monies! There are no coach firms and if there were they couldn't afford the outlay, and they would run the risk of being driven out of business by IOMG who will want everything being sewn up by MNH and Circus Vannin. In realty it's massaging/fiddling statistics and massaging civil servant egos. Along with a few business types who will try to come across as 'all important demagogues, with the power to make or break'. The public won't win or get anything, Strand Street won't and Michael Street won't. MNH gift shop possibly and the coffee shop will sell cups of tea and slice of cake. Perhaps if MNH and Circus Vannin take passengers on MER to Snaefell, with luck, or poor maintenance - the train may debrake itself and roll down the mountain - this time with passengers! They won't be able to sweep that under the carpet! Edited January 22, 2017 by 2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 you wouldn't think there was actually a government bod supposed to be 'director of tourism' The Department of Economic Development has announced the appointment of Robin Bischert to the role of Director of Tourism and the Visitor Economy. His three year fixed term appointment is effective from 1 October 2014. or even a 'head of tourism' would they have been considered appropriate to add their opinion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Hurrah, the Chinese are coming!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 the train may debrake itself and roll down the mountain - this time with passengers! They won't be able to sweep that under the carpet! How they've gotten away with that tram that crashed last time I have no idea, they've literally got away scot free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 you wouldn't think there was actually a government bod supposed to be 'director of tourism' The Department of Economic Development has announced the appointment of Robin Bischert to the role of Director of Tourism and the Visitor Economy. His three year fixed term appointment is effective from 1 October 2014. or even a 'head of tourism' would they have been considered appropriate to add their opinion ? What's the point of opinion (s) this administration is probably going to vote the scheme and highly likely to toss them a load of taxpayers cash. Considering there is no money - except for civil servants pensions and Tynpotwalders salaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 There are no coach firms What is Tours if it isn't a coach firm? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwj1y-Cw8NXRAhWNkhgKHW1YDK4YABAA&ei=QraEWKy0OcuIgAa4vqOwCg&ohost=www.google.co.uk&cid=CAASJORoqhoh7cshK55rp6iJWoIIBbkfcVDBc3ns1MrA8-x1e4sRtA&sig=AOD64_2w6gClpQXKO6MA9oMvH2RhPgk1fg&q=&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwis3duw8NXRAhVLBMAKHTjfCKYQ0QwIGA&adurl= Cruise to Douglas on the above link £1,849... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjQr7Ck89XRAhVGF8AKHQV-AbQQFgg_MAc&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seatrade-cruise.com%2Fnews%2Fnews-headlines%2Ftender-issued-for-repair-work-on-liverpool-s-floating-cruise-berth.html&usg=AFQjCNGlXOa9pXjfV3gIKdxHUj3UAIY32A Liverpool's floating liner berth is falling to bits already! And that is well inland...How will one survive the seas around the IOM? See link... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Google around for "floating berths" "floating liner docks" etc and see what some shipbrokers have on offer...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) At last a man comes on talking sense , well done Stephen!!! Points out that quoted comparable Cruise liner facilities in Monaco and Orkney are in fact completely different to Manx proposal in that both are protected by natural lee ,whereas proposed Douglas cruise facility is exposed on the outside of Alexandria Pier with large tidal range. Good old Rog gave him short thrift though and got rid quickly ! How I read it? Mark Robertshaw is a waffling middleman blagger with little detail or figures on offer but stands to make a lot of money and Edmund gets people to use his facilities and trainset ,neither inspire confidence. ETA. Oh yea !! Stephen also said that there needed to be a full tynwald inquiry with full facts and figures known before any Gov money was Authorised. Edited January 22, 2017 by homarus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 you wouldn't think there was actually a government bod supposed to be 'director of tourism' The Department of Economic Development has announced the appointment of Robin Bischert to the role of Director of Tourism and the Visitor Economy. His three year fixed term appointment is effective from 1 October 2014. or even a 'head of tourism' would they have been considered appropriate to add their opinion ? Has he buggered off early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 & is he still being paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjQr7Ck89XRAhVGF8AKHQV-AbQQFgg_MAc&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seatrade-cruise.com%2Fnews%2Fnews-headlines%2Ftender-issued-for-repair-work-on-liverpool-s-floating-cruise-berth.html&usg=AFQjCNGlXOa9pXjfV3gIKdxHUj3UAIY32A Liverpool's floating liner berth is falling to bits already! And that is well inland...How will one survive the seas around the IOM? See link... Ahh but we can buy it cheap!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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