woolley Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Other than being born there, growing up there, etc... Clearly didn't do him much good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just out of interest what nationality were Anders Breivik and Tim McVey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Got the makings of a holy war about it all this. Erdogan threatens Europe and then acquires dictator-status in his country, which is a conduit for most of the refugees/migrants from the middle east, to accompany the rise of the far right in Europe. ...and still people wonder if it's correct to pull up the drawbridge and take charge of our own affairs until the implosion settles? Edited April 21, 2017 by Lxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, RIchard Britten said: Just out of interest what nationality were Anders Breivik and Tim McVey? who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Lxxx said: Got the makings of a holy war about it all this. Erdogan threatens Europe and then acquires dictator-status in his country, which is a conduit for most of the refugees/migrants from the middle east, to accompany the rise of the far right in Europe. ...and still people wonder if it's correct to pull up the drawbridge and take charge of our own affairs until the implosion settles? Is that the same Erdogan that May met in Jan to sign a massive defence contract with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: Is that the same Erdogan that May met in Jan to sign a massive defence contract with? Business is business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just now, Lxxx said: Business is business. True. We are in the business of selling weapons to Middle Eastern countries (except the ones we or our customers are actively bombing). Turkey is just one of the Middle Eastern countries we are selling weapons to. Good job they all have sparkling Human Rights records... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 when turkey open the floodgates it will kick off in the eu..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 You have to larf...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, woody2 said: when turkey open the floodgates it will kick off in the eu..... They have the EU over a barrel. Which was always the plan. Turkey is and always has been a key player in the Syrian crisis and was hording refugees in huge numbers in camps waiting for the opportune time to release them into the EU, on the nod from the UN. It's all pretty well documented. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Lxxx you are a most odd personality- a lot of the time you produce pretty knowledge and coherent posts but often, whether over vaccines or infowars, you head off into the twilight zone. What do you mean by "with the nod of the UN"? Are we into Black Helicopter territory? Turkey is without doubt one of the key players in Syria and the fact one of the US's key proxies (I suppose you'd use the word mercenaries) are Kurdish really complicates their relationship. Turkey does host refugees numbered in the millions but that isn't some plot it is the reality of war and Syrians making for the nearest place of safety and opportunity. It does give Erogden a huge bargaining chip over the EU and he has selectively opened and closed the routes to show it. But this has nothing to do with the UN. They may run refugee camps and be the conduit for the nation states funding them but the idea they are some sort of power in this is straight out of conspiracy central. It would be like claiming Premier Inn was organising football hooliganism because that is where most of them stayed the night before. Syria is a great- and regional-power playground. The UN is a total irrelevancy vetoed and ignored in the smoke filled rooms where real power is wielded - and yes Turkey is definitely one of the powers doing that. Ergoden gains from this war and knows how to take advantage of that. Hence the billions of Euros being sent his way ... nothing to do with the UN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 its still going to be a sh1tstorm when erogden opens the gates... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 labour is going to get a right kicking for backtracking over exit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Bit early to be making predictions Woodtard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Freggyragh said: Bit early to be making predictions Woodtard. i have always been right in the past...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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