JackCarter Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Fair play PJ. I've read both of Owen's books. I thought 'Chavs' especially astute. On the chav theme to chart the start of it all I'd give the credit to Jarvis Cocker in 1995 for commenting that: You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go Well those at the top probably have the same feelings now so the chavs have had their say. We're all in the same boat and it's scaring the crap out of a lot of people. It will be a complete disaster for the IOM too. I don't care how it pans out for the UK as they deserve whatever is coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Woody here is the WTO source for tariffs. Obviously, the UK doesn't appear on the tables at present as it trades as the EU under WTO rules outside the union. Can't see anything resembling 2% on any off the tables. The tariffs vary greatly but appear a lot more than 2%. https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/tariffs_e/tariffs_e.htm under 2% is the uk's income from wto rules according to the treasury uk is a member, has a seat just doesn't have an account... Do you mean 2% of the UK's export income derives from exports under WTO rules? all the imports and exports in the uk under wto adds less than 2% to the cost..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Doesn't really have much to do with the topic, I just thought it was interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 it shows that wales,scotland and ni isn't as welcoming as the parish councils claim..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 it shows that wales,scotland and ni isn't as welcoming as the parish councils claim.....They obviously don't give a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 the mass evacuation of scotland has already started..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I mentioned before Scotland are really fucking themselves over with this Indy lark. Who is going to invest in a weak and feeble country that can't even decide what it wants? It's good for those south of the border though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) A better assessment of Scotland's prospects is to compare with The Republic of Ireland (under British rule - a starving backwater with a rapidly contracting population). 2017 - Average gross earnings for full-time workers in the Republic are £42,901. In occupied Ireland they are a meagre £21,836 (although living costs are cheaper). In Scotland they are slightly higher at £22,981, and, ok, that's higher than any region of England bar London and the South East, but imagine if Scotland could manage its own economy in the way the Republic can. Edited April 11, 2017 by Freggyragh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Ireland is so wealthy the U.K. even had to bale out the Irish Banks because half of London and Birmingham are owned by Irish interests and the UK could not afford for them to sell up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 All your graph shows is how the UK Westminster government has declined to invest outside of England, particularly the South East, for centuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 A better assessment of Scotland's prospects is to compare with The Republic of Ireland (under British rule - a starving backwater with a rapidly contracting population). 2017 - Average gross earnings for full-time workers in the Republic are £42,901. In occupied Ireland they are a meagre £21,836 (although living costs are cheaper). In Scotland they are slightly higher at £22,981, and, ok, that's higher than any region of England bar London and the South East, but imagine if Scotland could manage its own economy in the way the Republic can. Where on earth did you get that figure of nearly £43k average earnings in Ireland from? OK there is a finance sector and the rich elite do skew the figures a bit in such a small population, but £43k? Dream on. It's basically bankrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 ireland is a 3rd world country, yes it does have high wages but most of the young have left to england.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) Pretty sure he got them from the OECD. Salaries are pretty high over there, but so is tax and you don't get free health care etc. Edit: Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage Edited April 12, 2017 by Tarne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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woody2 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 the dortmund bus bomber appears to be another muslim immigrant that merkel let in last year.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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