woolley Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Reminds me of the quote in May 79 when Maggie T. won the election. "They're ringing the bells today. They'll be wringing their hands tomorrow". Time will tell, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 The Tories have a much broader church to keep happy now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, the stinking enigma said: The Tories have a much broader church to keep happy now Indeed. And they need to, because they have moved away from some of their other fanbases such as the Europhiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 What of Swinson, the putative PM in waiting, with her "Article 50 revocation in the first 24 hours" policy? She'll be working in the local pub next week. Politics is one unforgiving business. A shame for some good MPs, Brexiteers, who got caught up in the melee, such as Caroline Flint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 21 hours ago, woolley said: What of Swinson, the putative PM in waiting, with her "Article 50 revocation in the first 24 hours" policy? She'll be working in the local pub next week. Politics is one unforgiving business. A shame for some good MPs, Brexiteers, who got caught up in the melee, such as Caroline Flint. I understood those in England not knowing Swinson, and mistakenly thinking she'd be a decent leader, but surely the membership should have known what she was like? We did in Scotland, she was always going to be horrific, i was shocked when Davy lost to her. What's also really funny is their subsequent bawling at Sturgeon's reaction to Amy Callaghan winning the seat off her, buried in all this was the delay to the result was a massive tantrum Swinson threw because the returning officer refused her a recount, toys out the pram, threatening legal action. FAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Well the UK was certainly on the road to hell before BoJo did his "Maggie Thatcher" and has put us on the road to recovery. When push comes to shove what really matters is the future of England. If the Scots want out then fine, but out means totally out. Hard border, no English hard working tax payers money to continue to subsidise them, and the repaying of their part of the national debt that they benefited from. Any thoughts of joining the EU in their own right is a pipe dream. The EU have more than enough basket case economies as it is. Natural resources? Their national waters are not what the Ginger Whinger seems to think they are. Employment? Once the English withdraw military bases from Scotland that'll be a big hug on employment because of the indirect employment that spins off from that source. So even if the recovery path does mean bye bye to the Scots that could only possibly benefit the english and that is what matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Where do you suggest England site its nuclear submarine base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Where do you suggest England site its nuclear submarine base? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-45599558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Freggyragh said: Where do you suggest England site its nuclear submarine base? Keep them at Faslane and designate it UK sovereign territory as with Akrotiri in Cyprus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, woolley said: Keep them at Faslane and designate it UK sovereign territory as with Akrotiri in Cyprus. Or Sevastapol on the Crimea in Ukraine, like the Russians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 hours ago, fatshaft said: I understood those in England not knowing Swinson, and mistakenly thinking she'd be a decent leader, but surely the membership should have known what she was like? We did in Scotland, she was always going to be horrific, i was shocked when Davy lost to her. What's also really funny is their subsequent bawling at Sturgeon's reaction to Amy Callaghan winning the seat off her, buried in all this was the delay to the result was a massive tantrum Swinson threw because the returning officer refused her a recount, toys out the pram, threatening legal action. FAF. I will have to defer to your greater knowledge of Swinson. Aside from her vainglorious pronouncements of impending Prime Ministership, I have taken little notice of her. So what is she "like" and why then did they choose her as leader? She should be used to losing the seat because she did so in 2015 too, didn't she? I suppose I can understand a request for a recount. It was a bit tight. Sturgeon didn't cover herself in stateswoman like glory with her celebration either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Or Sevastapol on the Crimea in Ukraine, like the Russians. Yes. I imagine that local Scots that are supported by the base would be similarly welcoming as the Crimeans were to the Russians too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Or Sevastapol on the Crimea in Ukraine, like the Russians. The Crimea IS Russian. Edited December 15, 2019 by Rog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Freggyragh said: Where do you suggest England site its nuclear submarine base? One or more of a number of WW2 naval bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Rog said: The Crimea IS Russian. Yes. I know. It was only transferred to Ukraine in Soviet times to put more Russians into the Ukrainian population. They said it was "a gift" to Ukraine. (And they didn't even crack a smile.) Edited December 15, 2019 by woolley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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