Tarne Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Let's hope it's the end of Corbyn. I believe in an effective opposition, and right now there is none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Yes. Let's get hillary benn in before anyone actually starts listening to what corbyn is trying to say. We can only put the plebs off for so long by discussing what jeremy wears. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: As was the intention of the bias media from the get go... He's entirely unelectable and has been from the get go. Labour won't ever win an election with Corbyn at the helm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Notwell in parroting mass media shocker... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/the-mainstream-media-propaganda-war.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 On 18/01/2017 at 10:17 AM, Declan said: Sadly the UK, the ultimate failed mega-state will continue. The wrong results in two referendums has condemned us all to a Little Britain looking inward and gradually declining. No quite the reverse. It is all about being outward and not inward..The UK plan is to be free to open up to the world on the terms it can get rather than be bound by the collective agreements arranged by the EU which itself is a very closed shop and protective....Hence all the noise about the Single Market and tariffs applied to such as the UK if outside of that market... So it is not little Britain at all it is an attempt at least to restore the Manchester School principle of "Free trade"...ie We are free to deal with anyone who will deal with us whereas at the moment we have to do what the EU says is good for all...It is the EU that is inward looking and expects us to join the club and follow the rules...Problem is that the EU still insists on trading by its rules if you want access as the Isle of Man knows well...And the reason why many EU laws and regs imported into domestic UK law by the Great Repeal Bill will serve to make it easier to amend and keep alive those that are necessary for access to the EU There will no great bonfire of rules and regs as if you play on their green you follow their club rules. But sadly, sauce for the EU goose may not be a suitable sauce for the UK gander..Was it ever? We (UK) joined "Europe" due to loss of captive markets as the Empire and Dominions went their own way. Effectively we joined another empire and hit it quite hard.. Whether others will want to deal with a non-EU member and on what terms and to whose advantage remains to be seen as most of the UK "exports" are services and that is where I think the Crown Dependencies will get a new lease of life as the attitude regarding unfair taxation I think will not apply once the UK is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, quilp said: 'tis the end of Corbyn, then... shame.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Quote Mr Robertson accused the prime minister of putting her party before her country by holding a general election just two years after the last one. erm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 On 4/18/2017 at 0:37 PM, RIchard Britten said: Notwell in parroting mass media shocker... The mass media have been against every Labour leader since Kier Hardy, it's not just something they've invented for Jeremy. This issue is he's not really challenging that perception, every few months he'll do an interview moaning about it and wander off. At least we knew what Kinnock and Milliband stood for, at least they challenged the Tories and the establishment from time to time, and had policies people (although not enough) could get behind. There are people who see him a messiah, a new voice. But that's only because they are projecting their hopes onto a blank canvas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 bbc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I predict a nasty leadership challenge within Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, quilp said: I predict a nasty leadership challenge within Labour. It won't really make any difference. It's not the party who elects the leader in Labour it's the Labour supporters. Every MP might totally hate his guts but it's the grass roots Labour members paying their subs who vote in the leader and so if Joe Public thinks he's doing a good job and doesn't support an alternative leader then there's basically nothing they can do. That's why this saga has gone in for so long. He's hated in Westminster but the normal members keep supporting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If they're trounced at the poles he'll stand down surely? The MPs will nominate who will replace him and they're unlikely to make the mistake of nominating someone they don't want leading them. Well not again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 2:46 PM, woody2 said: no one can be surprised at mojotards germany's incompetence, just look what merkel has done over the last few years.... What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Declan said: The mass media have been against every Labour leader since Kier Hardy, it's not just something they've invented for Jeremy. This issue is he's not really challenging that perception, every few months he'll do an interview moaning about it and wander off. At least we knew what Kinnock and Milliband stood for, at least they challenged the Tories and the establishment from time to time, and had policies people (although not enough) could get behind. There are people who see him a messiah, a new voice. But that's only because they are projecting their hopes onto a blank canvas. 3 hours ago, woody2 said: bbc.... Are you Corbyn's brother? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/19/jeremy-corbyns-brother-brands-bbc-evil-criticising-labour-leader/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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