P.K. Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, woolley said: But there isn't. There is mutual interest to play ball. They will still have to take it to their respective governments because, of course, the EU cannot usurp the authority of the governments of the member states. What we call "sovereignty" I believe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, P.K. said: They will still have to take it to their respective governments because, of course, the EU cannot usurp the authority of the governments of the member states. What we call "sovereignty" I believe.... And if they want to protect trade in their countries they will concur. Or they will have their own business lobbies to answer to. You are just fighting the old war over again. Your problem is that you want to be in the Brussels club of ever closer union and have still not accepted the result. We have managed a lucky escape from it, probably just in time. The EU usurps the authority of the governments of member states with its every move, otherwise it has no function. Edited January 13, 2020 by woolley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, woolley said: And if they want to protect trade in their countries they will concur. Or they will have their own business lobbies to answer to. You are just fighting the old war over again. Your problem is that you want to be in the Brussels club of ever closer union and have still not accepted the result. We have managed a lucky escape from it, probably just in time. The EU usurps the authority of the governments of member states with its every move, otherwise it has no function. Dear me Woolster but you do spout the most awful hairy sphericals from time to time. I accepted the result the morning after the referendum. You really do need to get the idea out of your head that the EU is run by Evil Goblins intent on world domination. That was just a scurrilous rumour put about by the likes of someone untrustworthy like Aaron Banks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, P.K. said: I accepted the result the morning after the referendum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, woolley said: Why else do you think I was so pissed off...? CBA to find the original quote, even though it was clearly a classic of our time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manximus Aururaneus Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, woolley said: Does the internet posses enough emojis ? Do Manx Telecom have the server capacity / bandwidth to display them? Could our power lines catch alight with the hypocrisy? P.K. you are a star - a fading star, but a star nonetheless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Manximus Aururaneus said: Does the internet posses enough emojis ? Do Manx Telecom have the server capacity / bandwidth to display them? Could our power lines catch alight with the hypocrisy? P.K. you are a star - a fading star, but a star nonetheless. "A fading star" - laughable! Did you get tips on ridiculous hyperbole from twisted Quilp by chance? And you sir, are a charlatan, because you just can't admit that you know the UK's standing is much diminished by going it alone because in these days of globalisation it's far better to be in a trading bloc than being, in trading terms, a solitary lame duck... But hell, we'll get blue passports, that we could have had anyway... Who is the current front runner to produce these passports? Could it be the French? Simon Coveney has warned that the trading relationship between "The City" and the EU will have to change as a result of brexit. Good luck with that one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Asking you to put a sock in it and move on is hardly "hyperbole." The game is up, no need to be a sore-arsed loser any more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, quilp said: no need to be a sore-arsed loser any more. We're all losers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manximus Aururaneus Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, P.K. said: "A fading star" - laughable! Did you get tips on ridiculous hyperbole from twisted Quilp by chance? And you sir, are a charlatan, because you just can't admit that you know the UK's standing is much diminished by going it alone because in these days of globalisation it's far better to be in a trading bloc than being, in trading terms, a solitary lame duck... But hell, we'll get blue passports, that we could have had anyway... Who is the current front runner to produce these passports? Could it be the French? Simon Coveney has warned that the trading relationship between "The City" and the EU will have to change as a result of brexit. Good luck with that one.... Soooo.... 2016 Old bean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Manximus Aururaneus said: Soooo.... 2016 Old bean. It will shortly be "Soooo..... 2021" when reality bites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Bobbie Bobster said: We're all losers Conjecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, P.K. said: It will shortly be "Soooo..... 2021" when reality bites. Conjecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 8 hours ago, P.K. said: it's far better to be in a trading bloc than being, in trading terms, a solitary lame duck. One of the major economies of the world with the premier finance trading centre is hardly a lame duck. Unfortunately the EU is much more than a trading bloc. It is building a pan-continental state. We may have saved Europe from itself yet again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, woolley said: Conjecture. Look positivity is all well and good but when running projects if you couple it with blithely ignoring reality then you are headed for a complete horlicks. Johnson has put into UK law that there will be no extension of what he termed "vassalage" which ridiculous terminology makes it look very much like a total sop to the stupid. Unfortunately, although the rabid brexiteers will be applauding such a move without understanding what it actually means, Johnson is actually once again boxing the UK into a corner. Because the response of the EU will be to only go for what can be achieved in that timeframe which will just leave far too much open territory for it to be anything other than a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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