Rog Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Wrong, they are prohibited from doing that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/policy-making/ As I said, naive. And how long would that be put up with. Not long. It would further put pressure on the EU fault lines and they are growing day by day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Rog said: And how long would that be put up with. Not long. It would further put pressure on the EU fault lines and they are growing day by day. Now you're changing your tune. Please stop typing drivel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Incorrect. They are sovereign states who signed up to an common economic trade agreement. No. The European Commission has the overall power. That's why we got out while we still could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, GD4ELI said: Now you're changing your tune. Please stop typing drivel. No I'm not. Just think it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rog said: And how long would that be put up with. Not long. It would further put pressure on the EU fault lines and they are growing day by day. Rog, you clearly said "Trade deals can if necessary would be set up with individual states within the EU". That is not correct, at least have the good grace to accept you are wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rog said: No it isn't. Keep in mind that trade requires a seller with something a buyer wants. Like BMW cars.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rog said: No it isn't. Keep in mind that trade requires a seller with something a buyer wants. Rog, are you suggesting that companies within EU member states would be willing to illegally trade? Really, that's just not going to happen. Leaving the EU isn't a licence to break international law, I get that you don't like the EU but you can't just make stuff up to suit your agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Rog, you clearly said "Trade deals can if necessary would be set up with individual states within the EU". That is not correct, at least have the good grace to accept you are wrong. No. I'm not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Rog, are you suggesting that companies within EU member states would be willing to illegally trade? Really, that's just not going to happen. Leaving the EU isn't a licence to break international law, I get that you don't like the EU but you can't just make stuff up to suit your agenda. You have to understand that Roger isn't always right but he's NEVER wrong. Simples.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Rog, are you suggesting that companies within EU member states would be willing to illegally trade? Really, that's just not going to happen. Leaving the EU isn't a licence to break international law, I get that you don't like the EU but you can't just make stuff up to suit your agenda. No, what I'm saying is that the European Commission would face a huge blow and the probability of further states quitting the EU if there was any attempt to prevent individual deals being reached is a certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, P.K. said: You have to understand that Roger isn't always right but he's NEVER wrong. Simples.... Very seldom I am. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rog said: No. I'm not wrong. Getting naiver. Feel free to explain (with references) how EU member states are allowed to make trade deals independent of the EU. https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/policy-making/ "Trade outside the EU is an exclusive responsibility of the EU, rather than the national governments of member countries." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Rog said: Very seldom I am. One of the first and important lessons in life is to never believe that one is infallible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rog said: No, what I'm saying is that the European Commission would face a huge blow and the probability of further states quitting the EU if there was any attempt to prevent individual deals being reached is a certainty. So total supposition then. You said they can, they can't. Who knows what might change in the future but at the moment they cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, Rog said: So is Welsh, Cornish, and Scottish. It's more than likely that the Celtic tribes were driven to the backwaters of the British archipelago by invaders, especially the Romans, and the close association of Manx Celtic language and Ireland is due to those from Ireland swimming to Liverpool who got tired half way. Congratulations on being able to identify the Celtic nations of Cornwall, Scotland, Wales, Ireland and the Isle of Man... You know the exact areas identified on that map. The Isle of Man was never Roman, neither was Scotland. The Vikings invaded and settled along with the Celts hence why the Isle of Man has the Bishopric of Sodor and Mann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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