sir nige Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 15 hours ago, John Wright said: Link thingy. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/832419/FCERM_Funding_Statistics_Publication_September_2019.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, woolley said: I have no idea what Boris and his henchmen have planned. One thing is certain though. They need to be working hard to keep their new found converts in the north sweet, because if they don't it's hard to see where they will find support to win a majority next time. will labour (as it is now) still be around....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 It is being reported today that Boris Johnson has asked the Attorney General to find "a way around" the section of the withdrawal agreement relating to Northern Ireland. Posturing or is Johnson seriously considering not implementing the checks on trade between Great Britain and Northern Ireland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, manxman1980 said: It is being reported today that Boris Johnson has asked the Attorney General to find "a way around" the section of the withdrawal agreement relating to Northern Ireland. its not new news.... he had the wa changed so he could walk away....... some of the member states aren't happy either that its backed the eu into a corner and is to reliant on ireland and not the rest of the eu....... 2 hours ago, manxman1980 said: Posturing or is Johnson seriously considering not implementing the checks on trade between Great Britain and Northern Ireland? he said it throughout the election....... he has nothing to lose...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 hours ago, manxman1980 said: It is being reported today that Boris Johnson has asked the Attorney General to find "a way around" the section of the withdrawal agreement relating to Northern Ireland. Posturing or is Johnson seriously considering not implementing the checks on trade between Great Britain and Northern Ireland? Brexit: UK reneging on Northern Ireland pledges risks trade deals with US and EU Concerns raised after reports negotiating team told to devise plans to ‘get around’ protocol in withdrawal agreement Boris Johnson’s top Europe adviser, David Frost, has reportedly received orders to come up with ways to deviate from the Northern Ireland protocol. Reneging on the special Brexit arrangements for Northern Ireland will risk trade deals with both the EU and the US, experts have warned. Concern has been raised after Boris Johnson’s Brexit negotiating team has reportedly been ordered to come up with plans to “get around” the Northern Ireland protocol in the withdrawal agreement which includes checks on goods and food going from Great Britain to Northern Ireland. Former Irish ambassador to the EU Bobby McDonagh said reneging on it would have serious consequences including posing a risk to a future deal with Washington where support for Ireland is considerable. “If UK gov were to renege on its legal obligations under Brexit withdrawal agreement to protect Good Friday agreement it would have many consequences. One would be the end of any prospect of a UK-US trade deal,” he said in a tweet. And Catherine Barnard, professor of EU law at Cambridge University said there would be immediate consequences if the UK did not show good faith both legally and reputationally. “But it is not just the legal issue, it would also damage Britain’s reputation in other trade negotiations because it would raise the matter of whether Britain can be trusted,” she said. Actually trusting totally amoral narcissistic serial philanderer and inveterate liar Boris Johnson....???!!! Hilarious...! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/23/brexit-uk-reneging-on-northern-ireland-pledges-risks-trade-deals-with-us-and-eu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 nothing in the gfa says this...... bj doesn't need a deal with the usa or eu...... open day you'll get it....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 To be not entirely trusted in any negotiations is sometimes no bad thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, sir nige said: bj doesn't need a deal with the usa or eu...... open day you'll get it....... As 29% of the food consumed in the UK comes directly from the EU and a further 11% comes from non-EU countries via EU umbrella trade deals by all means explain how you will make up a 40% shortfall in foodstuffs without the EU? Be aware that talking bollox does not put food on the table.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rog said: To be not entirely trusted in any negotiations is sometimes no bad thing. Well, apart from the resultant built in swingeing penalties for non-compliance obviously... Edited February 24, 2020 by P.K. Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 hours ago, P.K. said: As 29% of the food consumed in the UK comes directly from the EU and a further 11% comes from non-EU countries via EU umbrella trade deals by all means explain how you will make up a 40% shortfall in foodstuffs without the EU? Be aware that talking bollox does not put food on the table.... There is a whole world out there, a world that we will not have to pay taxes to the European Commission in order to trade with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 hours ago, P.K. said: Well, apart from the resultant built in swingeing penalties for non-compliance obviously... Penalties need only be paid if the body attempting to impose them has the power to enforce them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 hours ago, P.K. said: As 29% of the food consumed in the UK comes directly from the EU and a further 11% comes from non-EU countries via EU umbrella trade deals by all means explain how you will make up a 40% shortfall in foodstuffs without the EU? Be aware that talking bollox does not put food on the table.... This baloney yet again. Do you really believe that the sources of these foods are going to stop selling them to Britain? That they are just going to shrug their shoulders and write off that trade? If so, you really don't live in the real world. It is not going to happen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Of course they will keep selling it. The real question is will it be cheaper, the same or more expensive once the transition period ends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Of course they will keep selling it. The real question is will it be cheaper, the same or more expensive once the transition period ends? It will probably all balance out in the end. Some things may be a bit up or down but not noticeable in the grand scheme. It's just the completely risible idea that there will suddenly only be half as much food in the country that is continually pushed by PK. Of course there is a substantial portion of the population whose health would benefit considerably were it to happen. But there is no chance. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 10 hours ago, P.K. said: As 29% of the food consumed in the UK comes directly from the EU and a further 11% comes from non-EU countries via EU umbrella trade deals by all means explain how you will make up a 40% shortfall in foodstuffs without the EU? Be aware that talking bollox does not put food on the table.... they don't know how much comes from the eu....its a guess......most trade deals have rolled over...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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