quilp Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, P.K. said: So you admit that all trading starts with an agreement. Progress of a sort I suppose. Corporal Obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, quilp said: Corporal Obvious. I would have said it started with a market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rog said: The matter is one of values. Food on tables will not be an issue. We will not be facing starvation now any more than we were before the EU morphed into being. Prostituting a nation for monetory gain is an issue. A very big issue. Be aware that in straightened times those with the least ALWAYS suffer the most. I think I'll quote from Samuel Johnson "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, P.K. said: Be aware that in straightened times those with the least ALWAYS suffer the most. that's the eu's problem...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, P.K. said: Be aware that in straightened times those with the least ALWAYS suffer the most. I think I'll quote from Samuel Johnson "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." I thought that you might. Just a pity that you fail to take account of the context that Johnson made the claim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, P.K. said: I think I'll quote from Samuel Johnson "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." This is another of your idiotic tropes, inaccurate and again used without a hat-tip to context. You're now into the wood of the bottom of that damn barrel you keep scraping... @Rog Just saw your previous post. Edited February 24, 2020 by quilp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, quilp said: This is another of your idiotic tropes, inaccurate and again used without a hat-tip to context. You're now into the wood of the bottom of that damn barrel you keep scraping... @Rog Just saw your previous post. Yes, that's what I was referring to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) It'll just go right over his head. Egocentrics are like that. Never wrong and impervious to contradiction. Edited February 24, 2020 by quilp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, quilp said: It'll just go right over his head. Egocentrics are like that. Never wrong and impervious to contradiction. I wonder if it is just being egocentric or if there's something organic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Rog said: I thought that you might. Just a pity that you fail to take account of the context that Johnson made the claim. Not at all. An assumption you have made that is inevitably incorrect. I particularly liked the Oscar Wilde version. But which one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) See what I mean Rog? Refusal to accept fact and the predictable obfuscation. First it was a Johnson quote and now he's thrown Oscar Wilde into the melee... Edited February 24, 2020 by quilp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, woolley said: The trade between Japan and the UK is pretty even. Why would we not continue on similar terms to the present? What is Japan giving the UK here? Nothing. It's a negotiation between adults who can either help each other or hurt each other. Which is best? There is no trade deal between the UK and Japan. All trade arrangements are via the EU at present. Japan wants a trade deal with the EU and the EU wants a preferential agreement. If Japan gives the UK a better deal then the EU's would have to match it. Japan is therefore unlikely to offer the UK a better deal than the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: There is no trade deal between the UK and Japan. All trade arrangements are via the EU at present. Japan wants a trade deal with the EU and the EU wants a preferential agreement. If Japan gives the UK a better deal then the EU's would have to match it. Japan is therefore unlikely to offer the UK a better deal than the EU. I suspect Liam Fox didn't visit Tokyo just to try the sushi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 EU demands UK keeps chlorinated chicken ban to get trade deal Exclusive: clause in negotiating mandate for Michel Barnier will create hurdle to US-UK deal https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/25/keep-chlorinated-chicken-ban-to-win-trade-deal-eu-tells-uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, P.K. said: EU demands UK keeps chlorinated chicken ban to get trade deal Exclusive: clause in negotiating mandate for Michel Barnier will create hurdle to US-UK deal https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/25/keep-chlorinated-chicken-ban-to-win-trade-deal-eu-tells-uk Because of the astronomically high percentage of food poisoning bacteria on raw chicken it would be a bloody good idea for ALL raw chicken and other poultry to be subjected to a wash in chlorinated water. The present prohibition by the EU was actually introduced for no other reason than to erect a non-tariff barrier to imported birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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