Freggyragh Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 They’ve certainly found the magic money tree. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/budget-rushi-sunak-treasury-figures-brexit-dividend-a9395476.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: They’ve certainly found the magic money tree. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/budget-rushi-sunak-treasury-figures-brexit-dividend-a9395476.html It's a sapling from Corbyn's forest, I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 We could do with a leader like Angela to see us through the next six months. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/world/europe/coronavirus-merkel-germany.html?smid=fb-share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: We could do with a leader like Angela to see us through the next six months. who's he.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: We could do with a leader like Angela to see us through the next six months. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/world/europe/coronavirus-merkel-germany.html?smid=fb-share I'm waiting for her to invite a few thousand infected Chinese in to join the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, sir nige said: job done......and as i said the government is picking up the bill....... 1. Since when did a budget announcement become a change in legislation? 2. I was pleased to hear the confirmation that Government would pick up the tab for businesses employer fewer than 250 people. 3. SSP remains at around £94.25 per week (planned to increase to £95.85 on 6 April). Many people will struggle to live on that why not announce a temporary increase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: 3. SSP remains at around £94.25 per week (planned to increase to £95.85 on 6 April). Many people will struggle to live on that why not announce a temporary increase? I suppose because the argument would be if it costs more to live now why should it cost any less after the emergency is over. It's easier to resist granting an increase than it is to withdraw it later. And cheaper of course. The magic money tree is not infinite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: 1. Since when did a budget announcement become a change in legislation? 2. I was pleased to hear the confirmation that Government would pick up the tab for businesses employer fewer than 250 people. 3. SSP remains at around £94.25 per week (planned to increase to £95.85 on 6 April). Many people will struggle to live on that why not announce a temporary increase? 1. when you have a 80 seat majority........ 2. much more than that...... Quote £5bn emergency response fund to support the NHS and other public services in England All those advised to self-isolate will be entitled to statutory sick pay, even if they have not presented with symptoms Self-employed workers who are not eligible will be able to claim contributory Employment Support Allowance The ESA benefit will be available from day one, not after a week as now £500m hardship fund for councils in England to help the most vulnerable in their areas Firms with fewer than 250 staff will be refunded for sick pay payments for two weeks 3. cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, sir nige said: 1. when you have a 80 seat majority........ They still need to actually bring the legislation before Parliament. So far two promises and no legislation... 9 minutes ago, sir nige said: 2. much more than that...... Sure, but I was specifically talking about SSP. I am still not convinced about the arrangements for the self-employed. 9 minutes ago, sir nige said: 3. cost They could limit it in the same way they have done with removing the waiting days. You only get the increased amount if diagnosed with Covid-19 by 111 and issued with a relevant medical certificate. If they are serious about containing/delaying the spread then they have to ensure that those who have the virus do not attend work and spread it to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I don't think anything was actually committed to the self-employed. However, if you think about it, that would be a nightmare to administer and police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: They still need to actually bring the legislation before Parliament. So far two promises and no legislation... Sure, but I was specifically talking about SSP. I am still not convinced about the arrangements for the self-employed. They could limit it in the same way they have done with removing the waiting days. You only get the increased amount if diagnosed with Covid-19 by 111 and issued with a relevant medical certificate. If they are serious about containing/delaying the spread then they have to ensure that those who have the virus do not attend work and spread it to others. 1. they have a 80 seat majority........ 2.self-employed can claim from day 1 rather than day 8 and with no lower income limit...... 3.at a unknown cost.......not going to happen and sick pay is much more than the rock n roll...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 its a good job the uk spent on no deal planning.....way ahead of the eu.....and looks like a massive saving now..... the doomer won't ever admit it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: They still need to actually bring the legislation before Parliament. So far two promises and no legislation... Sure, but I was specifically talking about SSP. I am still not convinced about the arrangements for the self-employed. They could limit it in the same way they have done with removing the waiting days. You only get the increased amount if diagnosed with Covid-19 by 111 and issued with a relevant medical certificate. If they are serious about containing/delaying the spread then they have to ensure that those who have the virus do not attend work and spread it to others. The self employed should get nothing. They should have been following the three month rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Rog said: The self employed should get nothing. They should have been following the three month rule. And what about those engaged by Uber, Deliveroo and others in the gig economy who simply don't earn enough to have three months money set aside. Your solutions are always over simplified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 His 'solutions' are always like that. You could almost describe them as final. What an absolute prick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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