mojomonkey Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Its got to be so confusing for some people, one minute they distrust everything the BBC says and the next they believe them.with 25000 staff you can't believe none have an agenda? get back to your goose steps Goose steps? You're the one quoting what they said as truth and then saying they're biased, make your mind up. Edited February 2, 2017 by mojomonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 They should build and equip some half way house facilities so that people who no longer have a medical need to be in hospital could be moved on and release beds for admissions. That would go a long way to dealing with bottlenecks in the system and would actually save money in the long run because expensive medics and equipment would not be standing idle for the want of beds for their patients. They already have them actually. Commonly if you are elderly and break something that affects your mobility (and I don't mean things like zimmer frames here) when you no longer need medical care you are discharged into a rehab home for intensive physio and so forth. The one I ended up visiting in had lots of dementia patients who had been discharged from hospital but couldn't look after themselves and had been disowned by their relatives ie nowhere else to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Neither are news, so no. What's your definition of news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Neither are news, so no. What's your definition of news? Reporting of fact untainted by the slant of the media. Avoidance of reports placed to promote a particular agenda, like the 1984 one described from R4 Today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) growth forecast for this year up from 1.4% to 2%. Edited February 2, 2017 by woody2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Neither are news, so no. What's your definition of news? Reporting of fact untainted by the slant of the media. Avoidance of reports placed to promote a particular agenda, like the 1984 one described from R4 Today. That sounds like some idealistic utopian view of what the news isn't.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Neither are news, so no. What's your definition of news? Reporting of fact untainted by the slant of the media. Avoidance of reports placed to promote a particular agenda, like the 1984 one described from R4 Today. That sounds like some idealistic utopian view of what the news isn't.. Certainly isn't at the moment. I can form my own opinions without help from some university product Guardian reading tosser who got a job at the beeb because someone just like him from the previous generation gave it to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I can form my own opinions without help from some university product Are you opposed to Universities in general? You're not one of those "University of Life" types are you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Reporting of fact untainted by the slant of the media. Avoidance of reports placed to promote a particular agenda, like the 1984 one described from R4 Today. So you accept the alternative facts presented by the Trump's press secretary? When I heard the phrase "alternative facts", before the biased media had even had a chance to laugh I immediately thought "1984". As I'm sure anybody who has read will have done. The media aren't making people think it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 r4 have always had a pro-eu slant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Reporting of fact untainted by the slant of the media. Avoidance of reports placed to promote a particular agenda, like the 1984 one described from R4 Today. So you accept the alternative facts presented by the Trump's press secretary? When I heard the phrase "alternative facts", before the biased media had even had a chance to laugh I immediately thought "1984". As I'm sure anybody who has read will have done. The media aren't making people think it. No. I don't accept anything I can't verify. Apart from Einstein of course. I note it and take it into account in forming a view, but as soon as something like the 1984 thing comes on my eyes glaze over I'm afraid. They were promoting the idea and even subtly linking Trump to Hitler. They have no business doing stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 The media has a responsibility to draw peoples' attention to an authority that lies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 The media has a responsibility to draw peoples' attention to an authority that lies. Yes, but not to embroider with their own prejudice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 The White Paper. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/588948/The_United_Kingdoms_exit_from_and_partnership_with_the_EU_Web.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 you would of thought it would be on red,white and blue paper...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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