woody2 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Because you are worried you'll read something which torpedoes your staunch anti-EU/Pro-Brexit views and might find out you were in fact wrong? because the reports are guesswork...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Because you are worried you'll read something which torpedoes your staunch anti-EU/Pro-Brexit views and might find out you were in fact wrong? None of us will find that out until we've had the experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 6 hours ago, woolley said: Why would I if I have no faith in the authors? Based on? Facts please. You know, just to make a refreshing change..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 because they are nothing other than lobbying ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 hours ago, woody2 said: because the reports are guesswork...... Properly prepared and researched reports and forecasts are not guess work all be it they will make estimates and assumptions. If for the sake of it though we accept they are then on the same basis everything you and anybody has stated might or might not happen is also guesswork. I am not sure that just "guessing" was the best way to decide whether to leave the EU or to then base the UK's negotiations on, although seeing the UK's Government's performance to date believing their strategy is based simply on guess work is believable. In my view basic on guess work is completely the wrong strategy. A game of paper, scissor, stone I reckon would be much better and probably first to ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Looking at future policy is by definition guesswork. You have to start with a set of principles and mine would be that you don't have supranational bodies usurping your sovereignty and therefore you leave the EU. Everything else is subordinate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 the british economy of fear-mongering...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 13 hours ago, woolley said: Looking at future policy is by definition guesswork. You have to start with a set of principles and mine would be that you don't have supranational bodies usurping your sovereignty and therefore you leave the EU. Everything else is subordinate. Keep polishing those teflon shoulders..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 minute ago, P.K. said: Keep polishing those teflon shoulders..... ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Interest rates up, nobody cries yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 34 minutes ago, woolley said: ?? Look it up. Ok. I tasked you to explain why we shouldn't have any faith in the researchers and you completely ducked it and instead came up with a load of bs generalisations. In other words it just slid straight off your shoulders. Don't worry though. I'm pretty sure the reports will paint a gloomy picture as well...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Oh, so am I. Nothing more certain. I didn't duck it. I'd already answered the question before you asked it: "All of this "work" will have been done by the same brooding constituency of remainers who will have put the most negative take on absolutely everything. You don't even need to see it really to know what's there." Please try to keep up. I didn't realise I was working for you by the way. Sorry about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, woolley said: All of this "work" will have been done by the same brooding constituency of remainers who will have put the most negative take on absolutely everything. Like when the hospital tells you it's probably terminal. Gloomy experts eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, pongo said: Like when the hospital tells you it's probably terminal. Gloomy experts eh. Absolutely not. Totally different. Finance "experts" have proved their "worth" amply in the last 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, woolley said: Oh, so am I. Nothing more certain. I didn't duck it. I'd already answered the question before you asked it: "All of this "work" will have been done by the same brooding constituency of remainers who will have put the most negative take on absolutely everything. You don't even need to see it really to know what's there." Please try to keep up. I didn't realise I was working for you by the way. Sorry about that. Catch up at the back! And your evidence that the work was carried out by "the same brooding constituency of remainers" is what exactly? Don't tell me! The results paint a gloomy picture of the UK economy post brexit! Proof if proof were needed.... Dear me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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