woody2 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 40 minutes ago, pongo said: If you have been finding that in practice then in reality it means they don’t rate working with you. i don't employ any...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 On 12/24/2017 at 11:05 AM, Manximus Aururaneus said: UK trade figures revised up to 1.9% by ONS - I'm sure that this is something that will be welcomed by all, Merry Christmas. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/896149/Brexit-economy-UK-Germany-ONS-figures-growth-Britain-optimism-business Also in today’s Express: Blind mystic Baba Vanga predicts a new energy source will be found on Venus. EU CRISIS: Europe on the brink as German farmers vent over new agriculture proposals. and; Ethereum will be next BITCOIN - Cryptocurrency will SOAR as bubble bursts and crashes. Just call a close relative or someone that cares and repeat these words: “I tried to make a point on a forum by quoting from the daily express” - hopefully that’ll be enough for you to get the help you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 good to sir nicky get his reward for destroying the libdums..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I hope it goes better than when Sir Nigel was ‘knighted’ by Russia Today! https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-knighthood-young-girl-hates-foreigners-russia-today-sam-delayney-a7610866.html%3famp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manximus Aururaneus Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) More confirmation the Project Fear was wrong; This time from the official 'World Economic League Table' who, until today, backed project fear. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/26/project-fear-wrong-brexit-global-economic-ranking-concludes/ Ps. If you don't like The Telegraph as the source Freggyragh- you can download it either direct from their site or the BBC, Guardian, Sun, Mirror, or pretty much any of the financial institutions as you wish https://cebr.com/world-economic-league-table-2017/ Edited December 26, 2017 by Manximus Aururaneus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) Is this the same U.K. based Cebr that five or six years ago predicted that when Brazil briefly overtook the U.K. as 6th largest economy that this was part of a broader trend and likely to continue - right before the Brazilian economy contracted 7.5% and slipped back to 9th? They’ve consistently predicted the U.K. outperforming France for a number of years now, and predict India will be in 5th spot by 2020. Still, nice glimmer of hope all things considered. A prediction by a think-tank with a dubious record in this area is hardly a confirmation of anything, except wishful thinking. Nice to see you’re prepared to listen to experts now though, even if it’s hardly a consensus. By the way, what exactly is your understanding of the word ‘official’? Edited December 26, 2017 by Freggyragh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manximus Aururaneus Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Freggyragh said: Is this the same U.K. based Cebr that five or six years ago predicted that when Brazil briefly overtook the U.K. as 6th largest economy that this was part of a broader trend and likely to continue - right before the Brazilian economy contracted 7.5% and slipped back to 9th? They’ve consistently predicted the U.K. outperforming France for a number of years now, and predict India will be in 5th spot by 2020. Still, nice glimmer of hope all things considered. A prediction by a think-tank with a dubious record in this area is hardly a confirmation of anything, except wishful thinking. Nice to see you’re prepared to listen to experts now though, even if it’s hardly a consensus. By the way, what exactly is your understanding of the word ‘official’? My understanding of 'official'; 1. The European Union Referendum Act 2015 (c. 36) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that made legal provision for a non-binding referendum to be held in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Gibraltar, on whether it should remain a member state of the European Union or leave it.[1][2] The bill was introduced to the House of Commons by Philip Hammond, Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs on 28 May 2015.[3] The Act was subsequently passed by 544-53 votes on its second reading on 9 June 2015, a ratio of six to one in the Commons[4] and was approved by the House of Lords on 14 December 2015,[5] and given Royal Assent on 17 December 2015. 2. In the referendum, the electorate voted by 51.9% to 48.1% in favour of leaving the EU, on a 72% turnout. United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016 National result Choice Votes % Leave the European Union 17,410,742 51.89% Remain a member of the European Union 16,141,241 48.11% Valid votes 33,551,983 99.92% Invalid or blank votes 25,359 0.08% Total votes 33,577,342 100.00% Registered voters and turnout 46,500,001 72.21% Voting age population and turnout 51,356,768 65.38% Source: Electoral Commission 3. Following the referendum result and the verdict of the R (Miller) v Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union case in January 2017 the UK Government led by Prime Minister Theresa May passed the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017 which legally allowed the UK to formally begin the process and formally notified the European Union of the United Kingdom's intention to leave both the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community by triggering Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union on 29 March 2017. 4 .MPs have voted by a majority of 384 to allow Prime Minister Theresa May to get Brexit negotiations under way. They backed the government's European Union Bill, supported by the Labour leadership, by 498 votes to 114. (Source BBC). 5. The Queen has granted royal assent to the article 50 bill, giving Theresa May the legal power to start Brexit negotiations with the European Union. (Source BBC). Now that you know my understanding of the word 'official' perhaps you could tell us what exactly is your understanding of the word ‘official’ Freggyragh? Edited December 26, 2017 by Manximus Aururaneus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Yeah, so there was non-binding referendum based on misinformation ... but what do you mean by ‘official’ when you talk of an official ‘World Economic League Table’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Freggyragh said: Yeah, so there was non-binding referendum based on misinformation ... but what do you mean by ‘official’ when you talk of an official ‘World Economic League Table’. yes, the remoans told lie after lie....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 To be fair I don't think either side was 100% truthful, and it would have been impossible for them to have been so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 People who voted remain were voting for a status quo they either liked or could put up with. People who voted leave were either voting for controls they had all along (eg; passport colour, immigration, bendy bananas, investment in the NHS, doctors and nurses trained at the expense of the U.K.), or things they can’t have (eg; a hard border with the EU, control over international standards and unconditional free trade for British exports). I’m not going to discuss the mental people who voted because they want to buy petrol by the gallon or bring back smoking in pubs. Leave won because there are 1,444 well paid politicians in Westminster who have been milking it for all its worth when in reality there isn’t much for them to do. They are law makers who find that the law is actually made by judges (English Common Law), international treaties (eg: Good Friday Agreement), the Council of Europe (nothing to do with the EU), or bodies of the UN. Even foreign policy is usually dictated by NATO rather than MPs. They couldn’t very well say ‘Voting leave won’t give you any more control’, they have to pretend to be worth their salaries, when they know the tiny, minuscule bit of control the U.K. gets back after leaving the EU and European Court will then be settled not by them but their party’s biggest donors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Quote To keep Brexit as clean as possible - Britain is an important partner and a break which damages its economy will adversely affect Germany too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manximus Aururaneus Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Freggyragh said: People who voted remain were voting for a status quo they either liked or could put up with. People who voted leave were either voting for controls they had all along (eg; passport colour, immigration, bendy bananas, investment in the NHS, doctors and nurses trained at the expense of the U.K.), or things they can’t have (eg; a hard border with the EU, control over international standards and unconditional free trade for British exports). I’m not going to discuss the mental people who voted because they want to buy petrol by the gallon or bring back smoking in pubs. Leave won because there are 1,444 well paid politicians in Westminster who have been milking it for all its worth when in reality there isn’t much for them to do. They are law makers who find that the law is actually made by judges (English Common Law), international treaties (eg: Good Friday Agreement), the Council of Europe (nothing to do with the EU), or bodies of the UN. Even foreign policy is usually dictated by NATO rather than MPs. They couldn’t very well say ‘Voting leave won’t give you any more control’, they have to pretend to be worth their salaries, when they know the tiny, minuscule bit of control the U.K. gets back after leaving the EU and European Court will then be settled not by them but their party’s biggest donors. When are you expecting your opinion to be granted Royal Assent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Manximus Aururaneus said: When are you expecting your opinion to be granted Royal Assent? Fairly certain that in private the Royals will be having the same arguments about Brexit as many other British families this Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, pongo said: Fairly certain that in private the Royals will be having the same arguments about Brexit as many other British families this Christmas. doubt it with the queen been in favour of leaving...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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