So the UK is finished says Theresa Mayhem

[woody2]

12 hours ago, Freggyragh said:

Yeah, he’s a hoot. The tories couldn’t handle the treasury experts so they set up the office of budgetary responsibility, and of course a hand-picked team at the department for exiting the EU - they’ve all reached the same conclusions and are now under attack for not having the blind faith to go along with gum-chewer Davis.

and been wrong every time......

[Freggyragh]

18 minutes ago, woody2 said:

and been wrong every time......

See above. 

[woody2]

1 hour ago, Freggyragh said:

See above. 

its firmly established you don't know what ya talkin' about.......

[Freggyragh]

Are you saying the head civil servant at the treasury was wrong to advise against joining the Euro, or are you saying it didn’t happen. Please make your objections clear, you tiresome oaf. 

[pongo]

17 hours ago, woolley said:

They've all reached the same conclusion because they are all the same type of euro enthusiastic globalising liberals

Most Conservatives backing Brexit at Westminster, certainly the Liam Fox faction, would identify themselves as "globalising liberals". One of their many issues with the EU is that they see it as protectionist. They are essentially Whigs. What became the Conservative Party fought a very similar battle with itself in the mid - late 19th century.

That's one of the fundamental issues around Brexit. That those supporting it in the country represent two almost completely opposed factions. It's a marriage of convenience. Whigs don't care about immigration etc and are globalists. 

Edited February 4, 2018 by pongo

[Freggyragh]

I don’t think Woodyfacts understands the word ‘liberal’ as anything but a perjorative term for people who can spell. 

[woolley]

14 hours ago, P.K. said:

Or they could just be looking at the figures.....

They are. With an EU approved crystal ball.

[woolley]

3 minutes ago, pongo said:

Most Conservatives backing Brexit at Westminster, certainly the Liam Fox faction, would identify themselves as "globalising liberals". One of their many issues with the EU is that they see it as protectionist. They are essentially Whigs. What became the Conservative Party fought a very similar battle with itself in the mid - late 19th century.

That's one of the fundamental issues around Brexit. That those supporting it in the country represent two almost completely opposed factions. It's a marriage of convenience. Whigs don't care about immigration etc. 

Quite agree with you. Brexit support is a very broad church.

[Freggyragh]

1 minute ago, woolley said:

Quite agree with you. Brexit support is a very broad church.

It’s a cult.

[pongo]

3 minutes ago, woolley said:

Quite agree with you. Brexit support is a very broad church.

It's an unstable coalition of opposites. A recipe for a poor outcome.

It makes no sense people who oppose globalisation backing Brexit.

[woolley]

11 minutes ago, pongo said:

It's an unstable coalition of opposites. A recipe for a poor outcome.

It makes no sense people who oppose globalisation backing Brexit.

The EU is exactly that! A coalition of opposites - all in it for their own conflicting and unreconcilable objectives.

I oppose both because neither will end well.

[P.K.]

1 hour ago, woolley said:

Quite agree with you. Brexit support is a very broad church.

 

1 hour ago, Freggyragh said:

It’s a cult.

You need to check your spelling.

[woody2]

1 hour ago, Freggyragh said:

I don’t think Woodyfacts understands the word ‘liberal’ as anything but a perjorative term for people who don't wash

#soapdodgers

[twinkle]

On ‎03‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 9:34 PM, woolley said:

They've all reached the same conclusion because they are all the same type of euro enthusiastic globalising liberals. Same types who gave us project fear, failed to see the banking crisis and promised us armageddon if we didn't join the euro. Of course they are under attack, and so they should be.

here's  something else for the snowflakes to mull over,its REAL journalism not the fucking guardian.https://www.capitalandconflict.com/end-of-europe/why-european-sovereign-debt-crisis-is-back/

[Freggyragh]

Eurozone public debt is awful, currently running at 89.3% of GDP  - good job the U.K. never joined the Euro. Mind you, U.K public debt is running at 87.5%, so not a huge difference. It’s worth remembering too that the big countries in Europe also have significant state assets, such as railways and utilities - and their state companies also own a fair bit the U.K.’s. How serious a problem is that?