Freggyragh Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Woolley seems to think regulations on, say, aspirin packaging, are going to be thrashed out in the House of Commons by those chancers, rather than unelected civil servants who have made careers out of studying the regulation of medicines. Can you imagine Johnson and Corbyn debating, I dunno, regulations for jet aircraft engine inspection schedules in Parliament? Seems like that is what Woolley expects from Brexit. It won’t happen. The U.K. will have to either hire its own experts if it wants ‘divergence’ or follow EU regulations without any input or control if it wants to keep NI and continue to trade with the world’s largest market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 hours ago, P.K. said: Another Brexiteer demonstrates their grasp of the issues: https://amp.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/brexiteer-tells-james-obrien-to-stop-giving-facts/ This Brexiteer stopped in the middle of an argument with James O'Brien to ask him to stop quoting facts at her. Jean in Lowestoft is extremely passionate about the British fishing industry, having worked in it for most of her life. As James O'Brien asked why fishing has become such a big issue for Brexit, Jean called up to explain why the Common Fisheries Policy is such a disaster for Britain. But when James started quoting some figures that questioned some of her comments, she didn't like it. Jean said: "You're now looking at figures and getting heavy with me." To which James responded: "I am. I'm looking at facts and you're giving me feelings. "This is Brexit. This is the debate. You and I are never going to agree with each other. "I sympathise with your position. You don't like the fact I'm giving you facts and figures." Jean hit back: "Have faith in your country, Mr O'Brien. It will happen!" Earlier, Jean said that if we left the EU, we could just sell to other places, pointing out that she had just shipped some whelks to South Korea. But listeners pointed out trade with South Korea is only possible because of the Korean trade deal with the EU. #fakenews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Woolley seems to think regulations on, say, aspirin packaging, are going to be thrashed out in the House of Commons by those chancers, rather than unelected civil servants who have made careers out of studying the regulation of medicines. Can you imagine Johnson and Corbyn debating, I dunno, regulations for jet aircraft engine inspection schedules in Parliament? Seems like that is what Woolley expects from Brexit. It won’t happen. The U.K. will have to either hire its own experts if it wants ‘divergence’ or follow EU regulations without any input or control if it wants to keep NI and continue to trade with the world’s largest market. it will be the MHRA just as it is now...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, RIchard Britten said: He explained that very simply by saying the meetings and votes were pointless. The fix was in, the die was cast. He was pissing in the wind so why bother and suffer the humiliation of being the only one swimming against the tide, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Lxxx said: He explained that very simply by saying the meetings and votes were pointless. The fix was in, the die was cast. He was pissing in the wind so why bother and suffer the humiliation of being the only one swimming against the tide, so to speak. Because he's there to represent the views of his electorate and not his own perhaps? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lxxx said: He explained that very simply by saying the meetings and votes were pointless. The fix was in, the die was cast. He was pissing in the wind so why bother and suffer the humiliation of being the only one swimming against the tide, so to speak. Sounds like a skiver trying to justify his skiving and then moaning when things happened without him. Also, isn't it his job to "swim against the tide" if that is the view of his electorate? Edited March 22, 2018 by RIchard Britten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Sounds like a skiver trying to justify his skiving and then moaning when things happened without him. Also, isn't it his job to "swim against the tide" if that is the view of his electorate? the fact sir nige upsets you so much is one of the best things to come out of exit..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, P.K. said: Because he's there to represent the views of his electorate and not his own perhaps? Well if he won the vote then the views of the majority of his constituents must coincide with his own. It has echoes of Sinn Fein not taking their seats at Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Lxxx said: He was pissing in the wind so why bother and suffer the humiliation of being the only one swimming against the tide It must be difficult to piss into the wind and swim against the tide at the same time. You'd need a very secure backstroke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Freggyragh said: Woolley seems to think regulations on, say, aspirin packaging, are going to be thrashed out in the House of Commons by those chancers, rather than unelected civil servants who have made careers out of studying the regulation of medicines. Can you imagine Johnson and Corbyn debating, I dunno, regulations for jet aircraft engine inspection schedules in Parliament? Seems like that is what Woolley expects from Brexit. It won’t happen. The U.K. will have to either hire its own experts if it wants ‘divergence’ or follow EU regulations without any input or control if it wants to keep NI and continue to trade with the world’s largest market. You just don't engage on a sensible level as is the case with most supporters of the EU. Trade is a red herring and it will continue unhindered; just wait and see. Please be honest for once and say that you support a Europe governed from the centre for whatever reason rather than the ongoing Project Fear stuff. I explained the problem with outsourced government in my previous post. You come back with ridiculous fantasy scenarios about Johnson and Corbyn in Parliament. A nonsense which illustrates the paucity of your argument. All of those matters will continue to be dealt with by the industry regulators and where there is need for cross border co-operation it will be done jointly as happens routinely throughout the world, BUT always operating under the control of the national governments and not some international quango. Everyone knows that there are people with ridiculous arguments for and against the EU (we won't be able to fly, we won't be able to go on holiday or visit family etc. etc.) so try to get past trotting them out continually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, woolley said: You just don't engage on a sensible level as is the case with most supporters of the EU. Strange, Pro-Remain voters aren't the ones saying "You have to believe" and expecting the UK to "cross their fingers and hope for the best"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Strange, Pro-Remain voters aren't the ones saying "You have to believe" and expecting the UK to "cross their fingers and hope for the best"... No, but they are the ones that have built/believed the whole crazy notion that the sky will fall in without the EU. There is no need to cross fingers and hope for the best. The world will not end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Strange, Pro-Remain voters aren't the ones saying "You have to believe" and expecting the UK to "cross their fingers and hope for the best"... lifes losers are the remoans..... which is why your one of them..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, woody2 said: lifes losers are the remoans..... which is why your one of them..... Bloody apostrophe ignoramus! http://www.apostrophe.org.uk/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, woolley said: No, but they are the ones that have built/believed the whole crazy notion that the sky will fall in without the EU. There is no need to cross fingers and hope for the best. The world will not end. The world may not, but as for the economical, societal and political sky "might"...but we'll "have to wait and see..>". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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