So the UK is finished says Theresa Mayhem

[twinkle]

they have had 40+ years to show us the wonderful benefits of the (EUSSR),and this little piece I copied a few years ago still rings true;

https://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-eurozone-in-a-dead-end/5634632

"it has always been the EUSSR plan. Edward Heath was warned about it. Slowly over many years little changes have been made, new laws passed and democracy eroded at a pace that nobody would notice. They believed it would take 40 years for anyone to notice by which time the dictatorship would have full control and no nation would be able to leave. It almost worked. Orwell was right when he wrote 1984; newspeak is truly here. Patriotism and democracy have become xenophobia and populism; both dirty words. The EU only wants an army to suppress any rebellion".

[Freggyragh]

Thanks for posting the global research link. Global research is an interesting news source, bringing together a variety of viewpoints, from a range of good writers, although it does specialise in controversial viewpoints. I’ve read your GR link, and agree that the Euro needs serious reform. Read the link below, and see what you make of it. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.globalresearch.ca/how-brexit-was-engineered-by-foreign-billionaires-to-bring-about-economic-chaos-for-profit/5614194/amp

[woody2]

8 hours ago, Freggyragh said:

Thanks for posting the global research link. Global research is an interesting news source, bringing together a variety of viewpoints, from a range of good writers, although it does specialise in controversial viewpoints. I’ve read your GR link, and agree that the Euro needs serious reform. Read the link below, and see what you make of it. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.globalresearch.ca/how-brexit-was-engineered-by-foreign-billionaires-to-bring-about-economic-chaos-for-profit/5614194/amp

nonsense....

[homarus]

On 3/30/2018 at 5:02 AM, Chinahand said:

I think Woolley is comparing Freggyragh to Richard Britten, not Shakespeare, but I could be wrong!

Nah that's Richard the turd.

[woody2]

[woody2]

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"Labour's policy, agreed by the party conference, is very clear: without the exact same benefits being on offer in any final Brexit deal, Labour would keep the option of staying in the EU on the table.

traitors

you can't trust labour if this is what they call respecting the vote.......

 

[pongo]

7 hours ago, woody2 said:

^ photographed a few days ago at an anti UK govt / anti EU protest held in Kent - a minority of fishermen protesting against the govt's EU exit strategy. Hence the anti-Mrs May slogan scrawled on the side of the boat.

But the real story is that much of the seafood sector is very nervous about the potential implications of Brexit. Because access to markets is as important as quotas. And access to markets may very well, at best, mean a continuation of the quota system as it applies to British waters. But without any influence over policy. Farage is especially sensitive re the seafood industry in general. He was on the EU fisheries committee but apparently never bothered with the meetings.

According to the Financial Times: 

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He failed to attend any meetings of the influential fisheries committee between February 2010 and December 2012, when he turned up to vote on the reform of the Common Fisheries Policy.  One MEP on the committee said: “For three hours during the morning he sat, looking somewhat bemused, as we ploughed through hundreds of amendments. He voted for or against some and abstained on many.” Mr Farage did not attend the final vote on how much of the catch fishermen should throw away, despite having described the policy previously as “shameful”. Soon afterwards, he resigned from the committee.

According to Greenpeace:

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Over the three years that Nigel Farage was a member of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee, he attended one out of 42 meetings ... during the three major votes to fix the flaws of the Common Fisheries Policy (CFP), Nigel Farage was in the building but failed to vote in favour of improving the legislation.

In 2013, Nigel Farage was again present but chose not to vote on the part of the reform of the CFP that introduces an obligation on governments to give more fishing quota to sustainable fishermen who contribute the most to the local, coastal economies. This would see the government giving more fishing quota to local, low impact fishing fleets, such as the fishermen featured in UKIP’s poster.

 

Edited April 10, 2018 by pongo

[woody2]

59 minutes ago, pongo said:

^ photographed a few days ago at an anti UK govt / anti EU protest held in Kent - a minority of fishermen protesting against the govt's EU exit strategy. Hence the anti-Mrs May slogan scrawled on the side of the boat.

But the real story is that much of the seafood sector is very nervous about the potential implications of Brexit. Because access to markets is as important as quotas. And access to markets may very well, at best, mean a continuation of the quota system as it applies to British waters. But without any influence over policy. Farage is especially sensitive re the seafood industry in general. He was on the EU fisheries committee but apparently never bothered with the meetings.

According to the Financial Times: 

According to Greenpeace:

 

the eu won't control quotas unless the uk signs up for it.....

#fakenews

[pongo]

1 hour ago, woody2 said:

the eu won't control quotas unless the uk signs up for it.....

#fakenews

The EU is the main market for UK fish. The UK will therefore inevitably have to compromise. That much is obvious.

Cor-blimey Brits don't buy fish anymore. They prefer McDonalds and frozen pizza.

[mojomonkey]

The whole fishing thing is a red herring. It's a good headline with the romantic idea of taking back control of territorial waters but the reality is that the amount of people directly employed in fishing is minute in terms of the UK's actual economy. 

[woody2]

13 hours ago, pongo said:

The EU is the main market for UK fish. The UK will therefore inevitably have to compromise. That much is obvious.

Cor-blimey Brits don't buy fish anymore. They prefer McDonalds and frozen pizza.

nope.....

[woody2]

12 hours ago, mojomonkey said:

The whole fishing thing is a red herring. It's a good headline with the romantic idea of taking back control of territorial waters but the reality is that the amount of people directly employed in fishing is minute in terms of the UK's actual economy. 

because ze germans, french and spanish nick all the fish......

[woody2]

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Barry Gardiner used colourful language to rubbish the party's pledge to secure the exact same benefits as the single market after Brexit.

 

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In the recording of the event in Brussels last month, Mr Gardiner was asked about the "six tests" Labour set the government to decide whether to support the final Brexit deal in a Commons vote. He said: "Well let's just take one test - the exact same benefits. Bollocks.

"Always has been bollocks and it remains it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43710728

#bollocks

[mojomonkey]

10 minutes ago, woody2 said:

because ze germans, french and spanish nick all the fish......

Mostly the Icelandic, but the fishing industry was in decline long before the EU. The whole fishing thing is a tiny part of Brexit that gets a disproportionate amount of coverage.

[woody2]

9 minutes ago, mojomonkey said:

Mostly the Icelandic, but the fishing industry was in decline long before the EU. The whole fishing thing is a tiny part of Brexit that gets a disproportionate amount of coverage.

it more that a proposal from the eu (and that's all it is) is a done deal, its not.....

good on sir nige for keeping the pressure up.....

i also hear some remoans started throwing punches at the same event and got a good kicking......

#winwin