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Just now, the stinking enigma said:

The pikeys were victims of the holocaust too. The only difference being that they didn't go on to rule the world.

Not so.  Not the Pikeys.  Romanies and assorted gypsies certainly were but Pikeys?  Nah.  Not even close.

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1 minute ago, Rog said:

Then you must have (SHOULD HAVE) found that the ancestry of Jewish folk who came to the UK from Europe are exceedingly difficult to trace because of lack of accessable records.  In the shtetls most records were destroyed or lost during the increasing pogroms and especially so as a result of the shoah.

You can trace their trades on

 

Just now, Rog said:

Not so.  Not the Pikeys.  Romanies and assorted gypsies certainly were but Pikeys?  Nah.  Not even close.

Once again the term Pikey meant those people who worked building the Turnpike roads. The turnpike roads were also built in the USA and the road builders there were known as "Pikers"...

The roads were entered through a series of tollbooths and across the road was set horizontally a large pike which could swing across and back again. You paid the toll and the pike was swung away. Swinging it back closed the road.

They were safer than the usual tracks and parish roads and there was much less chance of being stopped by a highwayman as you had all that hard road to run along. Not bogged down on the tracks in the woods on the other roads. Highway robbers needed concealment. It would be like a highwayman on the M25.

Don on my manor you can still see the turnpike roads and the tollbooths.

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16 minutes ago, Rog said:

And all down to the ludicrous ECHR. The designation of Pikeys as a unique race in their own right is just one of a great many reasons why it is an unnecessary, unwanted, and unnecessary bit of rubbish that Blair imposed on the UK. 

I think you will find that it is more down to the race-hate-incitement laws in England and Wales. As the man said "It's the way you tell 'em".

And Blair did not impose the ECHR. Britain was the main instigator of the Council of Europe which created the ECHR by way of a treaty they signed in London May 5th 1949. Later the human rights convention was imported into domestic law as before then you had to take the UK to court in Strasbourg. Now you can do human rights cases locally. 

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Rog, I think you’ve confused the word the word  ‘‘Pikey” with the usual term of abuse for an Irish traveller which is ‘Knacker”. As for ‘Yid’, isn’t that just used for the Ashkenazi (Ethnically German) Jews who originated in the Rhineland and migrated into the Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth and Russian Empire? (The red-headed speakers of the Germanic language Yiddish specifically, rather than the ethnically Hebrew Jews of Ethiopia and the mixed race Sephardic (Spanish), Maghrebi (North African) and Mizrahi (Syrian/Iraqi/Palestinian) Jews? 

Hope I haven’t caused you apoplectic rage by raising such a question. I know how sensitive you can be to anti-semitism - so before you rant, there’s none intended. Unlike you I don’t judge people on their ethnicity. 

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