John Wright Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, woody2 said: tariffs will be reduced you idiot........ No they won’t. Yes, you can find odd things that this applies to, but the average EU external tariff on food imports it is much lower than the average WTO tariff. Take your lamb example. What’s going to happen to UK producers. Do you not think the UK will protect? Yes, uk can produce 76% of staples like potato's, cabbage and carrots. But it’s a bit like the old manx diet of spuds & herring. If we go back to that ( if there were any herring ) it’s a reduction in choice and living standards. The cost of non staples will increase quite a bit. Or there won’t be some products all year round as we’ve become used to. Of course that may be a good thing. We may all be moving to seasonal Km0 and organic. For all sorts of other reasons. Edited July 1, 2018 by John Wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 50 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Even the beverages exports relies on imports. Most of England’s barley crop is taken up by Scotland’s whisky industry, so English beer is mostly made with imported barley. Scottish whisky represents 20% of the UKs total food and drink exports. Anyway, who told you tarrifs will be reduced? Do you understand how difficult it is for a 200 acre farm here to produce lamb at the same price as a 1,000 acre farm in New Zealand? Without tarrifs, imported labour or CAP, U.K. agriculture would shut down overnight. Either someone is feeding you lies and you are an extremely gullible fool, or you are making stuff up. The likes of Gove, Johnson, Fox and Rees-Mogg just avoid the subject, banking everything on some magical deal that requires the whole world to give the U.K. everything it wants for nothing in return. Just like the Brexit zealots on here. It's all very well spouting throwaway lines like "trade will continue" or whatever but strange but true the price is never mentioned. Funny that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 It's ok we'll all live on american gm food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 hours ago, John Wright said: By whom, where, link? BBC Radio 4 is dealing with this topic and related issues as I write. (World at One...Sunday)...You can hear it again recorded on the BBC Radio 4 website...All very complex and not something to be easily understood by way of bad tempered posts here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 thicko remoaners eu import tariffs + wto=eu uk out of the eu=just wto..... the uk pays 2.8% extra on imports from outside the eu on top of wto tariffs..... (ifs report) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, woody2 said: legal costs..... Which are what? Why would legal costs be any different post brexit? Edited July 2, 2018 by manxman1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 so growth was double what was predicted in the first quarter after the snowflake meltdown on here...... only 100% out....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 is merkel going to last...... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44674945 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 hours ago, manxman1980 said: Why would legal costs be any different post brexit? because the uk won't have to use the daft rules set by the eu or be overruled by the ecj...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkle Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 34 minutes ago, woody2 said: because the uk won't have to use the daft rules set by the eu or be overruled by the ecj...... and they could tell the "sharia shite" nutters to go where sharia shite rules. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 39 minutes ago, woody2 said: because the uk won't have to use the daft rules set by the eu or be overruled by the ecj...... Which rules specifically? The UK courts are responsible for hearing cases and whilst some EU regulations will have an impact the UK Government does have room to enforce stricter controls on illegal immigrants. 2 minutes ago, twinkle said: and they could tell the "sharia shite" nutters to go where sharia shite rules. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/ Again, the UK Government could already do that. The issue with Sharia Law (and religious laws of others in the UK) is that it is often practiced with the consent of the members of that community. The community agrees laws that will apply and then enforces them outside of the UK legal framework. The enforcement agencies just don't bother with it,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, manxman1980 said: Which rules specifically? The UK courts are responsible for hearing cases and whilst some EU regulations will have an impact the UK Government does have room to enforce stricter controls on illegal immigrants. deporting eu nationals is 100% controlled and judged by the eu....... the uk has zero say...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, woody2 said: deporting eu nationals is 100% controlled and judged by the eu....... the uk has zero say...... So, why does the UK not perform exit checks? In every other country in the EU I have visited recently you get your ID checked on check in AND you then go through a passport control point and have your passport scanned. The UK does not do this. It could but doesn't. As for EU citizens the UK could repatriate them after 3 months if they are found not to have the means to support themselves. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2004:158:0077:0123:en:PDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, manxman1980 said: As for EU citizens the UK could repatriate them after 3 months if they are found not to have the means to support themselves. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2004:158:0077:0123:en:PDF Ah yes, the totally debunked "take back control of our borders" nonsense peddled by totally unscrupulous, amoral, self-centred politicians like Farage, Gove, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Fox etc etc. Yet despite being told time after time what a pile of poo the "take back control" etc etc is the brexiteers still trot it out. I guess they feel they have to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, manxman1980 said: So, why does the UK not perform exit checks? In every other country in the EU I have visited recently you get your ID checked on check in AND you then go through a passport control point and have your passport scanned. The UK does not do this. It could but doesn't. As for EU citizens the UK could repatriate them after 3 months if they are found not to have the means to support themselves. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2004:158:0077:0123:en:PDF the law that no one has ever used...... try harder..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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