woody2 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Lost Login said: Fortunately they are probably wrong as no deal is probably not an option as it would require a hard border in respect of Ireland and the Tories have ruled that out. They agreed in December 2017 that they would "find a way to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland “through the overall EU-UK relationship” but if this cannot be achieved, Britain will keep “full alignment” with EU single market and customs union rules that are crucial to the Good Friday Agreement." Yes they could ignore this agreement but they rely on the Northern Irish Unionists to prop the Tories up in the House of Commons. A month ago I was of the view that there was going to be no deal, now it looks more and more likely it will be a very soft deal with the UK leaving the EU but agreeing to be bound by most of the rules. In effect for the privilege of not being in the EU the UK will in return no longer have a seat in the EU and loose its rebate. I am sure the EU might offer a few humiliating crumbs. Effing great deal that is but it seems that the UK/Tories have backed themselves into a corner from which it will be difficult to get out. If it comes to staying in power and shafting Brexshit then for the Tories there is only one winner and that is staying in Government. no deal has been done..... no border in NI doesn't mean they won't build one in ireland, can't stop the eu building one..... SF have already broken the gfa...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, hissingsid said: The people living in England would love Scotland to go Independent they are a liability and ungrateful to boot. only way that would happen is if england had a vote..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, woody2 said: what lefty snowflakes in meltdown...... it couldn't get any better..... The literate and informed have seen this coming for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 7 hours ago, woody2 said: no deal has been done..... no border in NI doesn't mean they won't build one in ireland, can't stop the eu building one..... SF have already broken the gfa...... Maybe try reading looking at the agreement that the EU, Ireland and the UK came to with regard to ensuring the Food Friday Agreement was protected. I was going to suggest that you read but I appreciate that you ignore anything that is contrary to your trolling dogma but maybe try it as you appear nothing else to do in your life considering how much time you spend posting on this site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 9 hours ago, woody2 said: what lefty snowflakes in meltdown...... it couldn't get any better..... It seems to be the Brexshiters who in meltdown as they see there beloved Brexshit disappearing over the sunset. The Government now has less Brexshitters in the Cabinet and what May proposes is already too soft for them. That is before the inevitable concessions from the UK which the Brexshitters now have less influence over. I do not have a lot of respect for May as a politician but she has a pretty ruthless streak if you look at the way she became leader of the Tory party and now this. If you want a hard Brexshit then yesterday was a pretty bad day as it basically just reduced the chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, Lost Login said: Maybe try reading looking at the agreement that the EU, Ireland and the UK came to with regard to ensuring the Food Friday Agreement was protected. I was going to suggest that you read but I appreciate that you ignore anything that is contrary to your trolling dogma but maybe try it as you appear nothing else to do in your life considering how much time you spend posting on this site no deal has been done.... 35 minutes ago, Lost Login said: It seems to be the Brexshiters who in meltdown as they see there beloved Brexshit disappearing over the sunset. The Government now has less Brexshitters in the Cabinet and what May proposes is already too soft for them. That is before the inevitable concessions from the UK which the Brexshitters now have less influence over. I do not have a lot of respect for May as a politician but she has a pretty ruthless streak if you look at the way she became leader of the Tory party and now this. If you want a hard Brexshit then yesterday was a pretty bad day as it basically just reduced the chances. its the remoans in meltdown...... see twatter....... this is only the start...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Freggyragh said: The illiterate and unformed have seen this coming for months. while the winners have seen this coming for years...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, woody2 said: its the remoans in meltdown...... No matter how many times you say that Black is White it still is not true. As for the remainers being in Meltdown, I don't see them resigning from the UK Govt. That appears to be the Brexshitters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Lost Login said: No matter how many times you say that Black is White it still is not true. As for the remainers being in Meltdown, I don't see them resigning from the UK Govt. That appears to be the Brexshitters says the thicko who thinks that the december document is binding its a statement of intent and is not legally enforceable...... you should try reading it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Brexshit, remoaners, thickos, etc... Grow up a bit lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Jacob et al don’t really care what kind of Brexit they get just as long as the U.K. is out before have to pay tax on all their income. They’ll keep winding up the gammon, blaming the NHS’ situation on people who work and pay taxes instead of those who avoid paying tax and call the EU the EUSSR because they want to collect taxes from everyone, not just the poor and middle income plebs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Jacob et al don’t really care what kind of Brexit they get just as long as the U.K. is out before have to pay tax on all their income. eh? in english...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Lost Login said: A month ago I was of the view that there was going to be no deal, now it looks more and more likely it will be a very soft deal with the UK leaving the EU but agreeing to be bound by most of the rules. In effect for the privilege of not being in the EU the UK will in return no longer have a seat in the EU and loose its rebate. I am sure the EU might offer a few humiliating crumbs. Effing great deal that is but it seems that the UK/Tories have backed themselves into a corner from which it will be difficult to get out. I don't see that as a given. There has been a rise in populism across the EU with self-inflicted economic woes being blamed on the handiest scapegoat available namely the EU. Our politicians use the same language e.g. "A deal that suits the UK and not Brussels" rather than "A deal that suits the UK and not the other 27 member states" because that does not target the so-called faceless, expensive, unnecessary, empire-building administration and all the rest of the brexit bs. Mindful of this I don't expect the EU to allow any cherry-picking. And with this tory government having wasted so much time on in-fighting we could simply time out and therefore crash out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 the eu will be united up until members all have to pay a billion pounds plus just to meet the eu budget till 2020...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Freggyragh said: Jacob et al don’t really care what kind of Brexit they get just as long as the U.K. is out before have to pay tax on all their income. They’ll keep winding up the gammon, blaming the NHS’ situation on people who work and pay taxes instead of those who avoid paying tax and call the EU the EUSSR because they want to collect taxes from everyone, not just the poor and middle income plebs. What do you mean "before have to pay tax on all their income"? Surely this is a matter for the individual sovereign state and not the EU. How is this the business of a mere "trading bloc"? The NHS "situation" is what? It has billions of pounds more thrown at it every year, with another £20 billion extra now promised. It has to cope with continually increasing demand, yes. But it is not starved of cash as the left would have us believe. The problem is that the NHS is run as a massive nationalised industry, and that is always going to carry systemic inefficiencies from top to bottom. If the system is "the envy of the world", why is the world not copying it? The EU is essentially self-serving. It cares about the euro, but it doesn't give a bugger about the poor. If you really believe what you have posted there, go and spend some time in Greece, Spain and Portugal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.