quilp Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, P.K. said: Oh the irony....! The number of times you stick to your ad hominem response.tactic.... And you aren't just as guilty of the same yourself? It's the way ya tell'em. You can dish it out but can't take it, that's a fact... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, quilp said: Yeah yeah, I acquiesce. But you must admit to having this morbid, defeatist attitude to brexit which I can't get my head around. Can't understand why, unless it's just your politics overbearing your judgement... Another analogy time... We're on a bus, and there are 5 different drivers squabbling about who's turn it is to steer the bus. All five of them want to turn off the road ahead into 5 different voids of the unknown. Are you going to scream and shout at the drivers to sort their shit out, take control of the wheel yourself or sit back, accept your fate and enjoy the ride into the void? There is a "secret" fourth option of cheering on the bumbling drivers because you don't care which unknown void you end up in (which some hard line Brexit extremists seem to prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 All I'm bothered about there is can we smoke on the bus..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, quilp said: All I'm bothered about there is can we smoke on the bus..? Why not....the bus appears to be on fire already, and in the driver confusion, no-one thought to bring a fire extinguisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Another analogy time... We're on a bus, and there are 5 different drivers squabbling about who's turn it is to steer the bus. All five of them want to turn off the road ahead into 5 different voids of the unknown. Are you going to scream and shout at the drivers to sort their shit out, take control of the wheel yourself or sit back, accept your fate and enjoy the ride into the void? There is a "secret" fourth option of cheering on the bumbling drivers because you don't care which unknown void you end up in (which some hard line Brexit extremists seem to prefer. But to complete the analogy, the bus is actually heading out of a burning building, so not quite so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hague sums up the situation quite well. I think he must have been reading my stuff in the last few months: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44792474 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, woolley said: But to complete the analogy, the bus is actually heading out of a burning building, so not quite so bad. Wrong. The building is only on fire in the minds of some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Another analogy time... We're on a bus, and there are 5 different drivers squabbling about who's turn it is to steer the bus. All five of them want to turn off the road ahead into 5 different voids of the unknown. Are you going to scream and shout at the drivers to sort their shit out, take control of the wheel yourself or sit back, accept your fate and enjoy the ride into the void? There is a "secret" fourth option of cheering on the bumbling drivers because you don't care which unknown void you end up in (which some hard line Brexit extremists seem to prefer. Those of us who WANT a hard cold clinical BREXIT want to have a clean slate which will give us the ability to slam the door shut and keep EU interference and meddling in order to establish our own future and set about repairing the terrible damage that membership of the EU has resulted in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, woolley said: Hague sums up the situation quite well. I think he must have been reading my stuff in the last few months: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44792474 "He resigned as Conservative Leader after the 2001 general election following his party's second defeat, at which the Conservatives made a net gain of just one seat" Yeah, don't think Hague is a good person to listen to when it comes to important things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rog said: Those of us who WANT a hard cold clinical BREXIT want to have a clean slate which will give us the ability to slam the door shut and keep EU interference and meddling in order to establish our own future and set about repairing the terrible damage that membership of the EU has resulted in. Cue the extremist I mentioned earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: "He resigned as Conservative Leader after the 2001 general election following his party's second defeat, at which the Conservatives made a net gain of just one seat" Yeah, don't think Hague is a good person to listen to when it comes to important things. He's right on this. Because he lost an election it's rather simple-minded to believe that everything that emits from his mouth for the rest of his life is nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 The free bus pass is a dead giveaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Wrong. The building is only on fire in the minds of some. And the UK is hopeless and helpless only in the minds of some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, woolley said: He's right on this. Because he lost an election it's rather simple-minded to believe that everything that emits from his mouth for the rest of his life is nonsense. Lost two..."second defeat"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Lost two..."second defeat"... Nope. (with apologies to Woody). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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