La Colombe Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, P.K. said: Please explain, with explanatory £numbers, how you have reached this conclusion. I can't be bothered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, La Colombe said: I can't be bothered. I'll bet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 So, U.K. citizens are set to lose: 1. The right to live and / or work in any other countries in the world other than the U.K. and Ireland. 2. Health insurance in 27 other countries. 3. Any say in the laws relating to common European standards. 4. Any say at all on the future direction of the largest market in the world. 5. Any say in the rules governing trade in Northern Ireland. 6. All the cost saving benefits of pooled resources in areas such as research, foreign representation and trade negotiation. 7. Access to the consular services of another EU state in a country or region where the U.K. has no representation of its own. Likewise, access to emergency assistance from EU consular services. 8. Access to the fast lane at passport control in EU states. 9. EU protections regarding working hours, time off, annual leave, equal pay, maternity pay, paternal leave, anti-discrimination laws, agency worker protections, the EU health and safety framework. All of these worker protections may now be repealed. 10. Future protections of the 2020 Social Inclusion strategy directing states to plan for rights relating to unemployment, social exclusion, decent housing, sickness and healthcare, security and care in old age, support for bereavement, and invalidity. On the other hand, the super wealthy still get to avoid EU tax coding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 12 hours ago, mojomonkey said: The news would much more amusing to watch if the reporters actually used such phrasing. talking of news.......... i see merkel is missing the bad old days......... #stillbuildingwalls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 12 hours ago, La Colombe said: No deal is never going to happen. not if the labour amendment gets passed...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Freggyragh said: So, U.K. citizens are set to lose: 1. The right to live and / or work in any other countries in the world other than the U.K. and Ireland. 2. Health insurance in 27 other countries. 3. Any say in the laws relating to common European standards. 4. Any say at all on the future direction of the largest market in the world. 5. Any say in the rules governing trade in Northern Ireland. 6. All the cost saving benefits of pooled resources in areas such as research, foreign representation and trade negotiation. 7. Access to the consular services of another EU state in a country or region where the U.K. has no representation of its own. Likewise, access to emergency assistance from EU consular services. 8. Access to the fast lane at passport control in EU states. 9. EU protections regarding working hours, time off, annual leave, equal pay, maternity pay, paternal leave, anti-discrimination laws, agency worker protections, the EU health and safety framework. All of these worker protections may now be repealed. 10. Future protections of the 2020 Social Inclusion strategy directing states to plan for rights relating to unemployment, social exclusion, decent housing, sickness and healthcare, security and care in old age, support for bereavement, and invalidity. On the other hand, the super wealthy still get to avoid EU tax coding. #fakenews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Draft on future UK-EU relationship 'agreed' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46300247 #nodeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Quote #fakenews You know you have hit home when you get this answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Freggyragh said: So, U.K. citizens are set to lose: 1. The right to live and / or work in any other countries in the world other than the U.K. and Ireland. 2. Health insurance in 27 other countries. 3. Any say in the laws relating to common European standards. 4. Any say at all on the future direction of the largest market in the world. 5. Any say in the rules governing trade in Northern Ireland. 6. All the cost saving benefits of pooled resources in areas such as research, foreign representation and trade negotiation. 7. Access to the consular services of another EU state in a country or region where the U.K. has no representation of its own. Likewise, access to emergency assistance from EU consular services. 8. Access to the fast lane at passport control in EU states. 9. EU protections regarding working hours, time off, annual leave, equal pay, maternity pay, paternal leave, anti-discrimination laws, agency worker protections, the EU health and safety framework. All of these worker protections may now be repealed. 10. Future protections of the 2020 Social Inclusion strategy directing states to plan for rights relating to unemployment, social exclusion, decent housing, sickness and healthcare, security and care in old age, support for bereavement, and invalidity. On the other hand, the super wealthy still get to avoid EU tax coding. FFS we'll get blue passports! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Freggyragh said: So, U.K. citizens are set to lose: 1. The right to live and / or work in any other countries in the world other than the U.K. and Ireland. 2. Health insurance in 27 other countries. 3. Any say in the laws relating to common European standards. 4. Any say at all on the future direction of the largest market in the world. 5. Any say in the rules governing trade in Northern Ireland. 6. All the cost saving benefits of pooled resources in areas such as research, foreign representation and trade negotiation. 7. Access to the consular services of another EU state in a country or region where the U.K. has no representation of its own. Likewise, access to emergency assistance from EU consular services. 8. Access to the fast lane at passport control in EU states. 9. EU protections regarding working hours, time off, annual leave, equal pay, maternity pay, paternal leave, anti-discrimination laws, agency worker protections, the EU health and safety framework. All of these worker protections may now be repealed. 10. Future protections of the 2020 Social Inclusion strategy directing states to plan for rights relating to unemployment, social exclusion, decent housing, sickness and healthcare, security and care in old age, support for bereavement, and invalidity. On the other hand, the super wealthy still get to avoid EU tax coding. My take on this: 1. Any other country in the World? Leaving the EU is probably going to change rights of stay in EU but not sure how it is going to affect the rest of the World. 2. True to some extent, although what you are actually entitled to in EU countries is limited. I suspect that emergency treatment will remain and failing that any right minded person takes out travel insurance when necessary. 3. I would say true. 4. Certainly lose any say in the direction of the EU, whether that is the largest market in the World is debatable. 5. No idea. 6. Probably true to some extent, but it does seem that we are entering an age of isolationism. 7. True, but hardly a big deal. The UK has consular services most places and actually how often are they legitimately used. 8. True, but in my experience given that a large amount of EU based travel is within the EU the queues are never noticeably different. 9. True. 10. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 3 hours ago, mojomonkey said: My take on this: 1. Any other country in the World? Leaving the EU is probably going to change rights of stay in EU but not sure how it is going to affect the rest of the World. 2. True to some extent, although what you are actually entitled to in EU countries is limited. I suspect that emergency treatment will remain and failing that any right minded person takes out travel insurance when necessary. 3. I would say true. 4. Certainly lose any say in the direction of the EU, whether that is the largest market in the World is debatable. 5. No idea. 6. Probably true to some extent, but it does seem that we are entering an age of isolationism. 7. True, but hardly a big deal. The UK has consular services most places and actually how often are they legitimately used. 8. True, but in my experience given that a large amount of EU based travel is within the EU the queues are never noticeably different. 9. True. 10. True. #guesswork so about this fence..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 4 hours ago, ballaughbiker said: You know you have hit home when you get this answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, woody2 said: #guesswork so about this fence..... Hence why I said my take on it. Not sure what you want me to say about the fence but you obviously like it as this is the second time today you've referred me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 12 hours ago, mojomonkey said: Hence why I said my take on it. yes #guesswork...... take a look at this....... Quote On 11/21/2018 at 11:39 PM, Freggyragh said: So, U.K. citizens are set to lose: 1. The right to live and / or work in any other countries in the world other than the U.K. and Ireland. #fakenews 18 hours ago, mojomonkey said: 1. Any other country in the World? Leaving the EU is probably going to change rights of stay in EU but not sure how it is going to affect the rest of the World. is it? it just won't be called freedom of movement anymore...... i could rip the rest to shreds but its simply not worth it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 12 hours ago, mojomonkey said: Not sure what you want me to say about the fence but you obviously like it as this is the second time today you've referred me to it. merkel builds a vielfalt zaun in berlin and you have nothing to say........ run and find your safe place........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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