quilp Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) That's not what I posted. A, as in one moderator who was, then wasn't, but is again... Edited December 10, 2018 by quilp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, quilp said: That's not what I posted. A, as in one moderator who was, then wasn't and is again... Eh, is there a new (but old) moderator then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Er, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, quilp said: Er, yes. Who? Is there an actual list of who the moderators are anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Who? Is there an actual list of who the moderators are anywhere? https://www.manxforums.com/forums/index.php?/staff/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 W2 was gone before my return. I wouldn't have returned had he been still posting. And, no, it wasn't a precondition. I didn't even know. I'm just feeling better. Trying to get back to some normality. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, mojomonkey said: If Woody hasn't already melted down then he'd better not see this news - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46481643 Quelle surprise! Who would have guessed? I hope you had a few quid on that Freggy. You might have secured good odds; say 1-5000! Wait till you see the bill for the costs of abortive negotiations, disruption to the EU and hurt feelings, etc, etc. You might not see it until Article 50 is withdrawn though. Dear, dear. What a mess. What idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, John Wright said: I'm just feeling better. Trying to get back to some normality. Glad you are feeling on better form, John. Without health there is nothing and all arguments pale into irrelevance.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, woolley said: Glad you are feeling on better form, John. Without health there is nothing and all arguments pale into irrelevance.. What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, woolley said: Quelle surprise! Who would have guessed? I hope you had a few quid on that Freggy. You might have secured good odds; say 1-5000! Wait till you see the bill for the costs of abortive negotiations, disruption to the EU and hurt feelings, etc, etc. You might not see it until Article 50 is withdrawn though. Dear, dear. What a mess. What idiots. Unfortunately it weakens the Maybot and her "My way or the high way..." somewhat. But then the whole farrago has been a complete and utter shambles from start to finish. Although whether it was the ineptitude of those taking part or that after so many years it's just a bit too tricky is difficult to say. Probably somewhere in between for no other reason than it usually is. Have to say I don't see anyone among our current politicians with the cojones to withdraw Art 50. Rumours abounding that tomorrow's vote will be delayed. Well I never... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Brexit! It was never going to work anyway after all these years. Well not without pain, upheaval and uncertainty. Just a simple observation...I voted Remain not because I like the EU...I believe the UK will not fit into a federal EU...But overall better on the inside pissing out than on the outside pissing in. I voted Remain because I felt that leaving would not be feasible after all these years and bearing in mind the way things are... It is like the old Royal Navy rule from way back. When contemplating action "Choose the lesser of two evils"... I think that Remain is "The lesser of two evils"...With regret it would have been nice to leave but...….Well, we can now see it. No hiding place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Rumours of delaying the vote getting stronger, PM statement due at 15:30. Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery this lot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Brexit vote pulled with a couple of hours to go....a couple of hours after Gove announces it would go ahead. Proving that they're just winging it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I’m not a big fan of the EU, but much less of a fan of China or Russia. The world has to pull together to deal with the awful global challenges ahead. Of the democracies the U.K. could partner with; the US is too big and bellicose, India and South Africa are too politically unreliable and economically underdeveloped and Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand too far away - but if the U.K. had any sense, once it’s back in the EU it might want to explore the possibilities of extending EU membership, or something like it, to those countries too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: I’m not a big fan of the EU, but much less of a fan of China or Russia. The world has to pull together to deal with the awful global challenges ahead. Of the democracies the U.K. could partner with; the US is too big and bellicose, India and South Africa are too politically unreliable and economically underdeveloped and Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand too far away - but if the U.K. had any sense, once it’s back in the EU it might want to explore the possibilities of extending EU membership, or something like it, to those countries too. The UK did of course have that notion for the development of the EU 20 years ago and more, and was a big advocate of the eastward push for new member states from the old Warsaw Pact/Comecon bloc. The strategy was to develop it wider in the hope that it might not cut so deep into national sovereignty as there would be more divergent voices. I am honestly all for working together in the common interest, and obviously for a free trade area, but I cannot look at the political reality in Europe today without seeing the EU as a busted flush whether the UK is in or out. Wider possibilities should indeed be explored, and the US should not be discounted because our similarities are greater than our differences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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