woolley Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, pongo said: Gammons-Jaunes Oh dear. Yes. Of course, much of what you say about him is true. However, you have said not one word about the claims made there by the EU elite about historical events. Ludicrous, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Pretending that Remainers in general are crediting the EU with the defeat of Hitler is the daftest Leaver claim yet. We all know that was achieved by the USSR, US, British Empire and friends. Stalin would have snapped up Western Europe, East Asia and the decolonizing empires too, if it hadn’t been for the US and the successful reconstruction of a shattered Western Europe, firstly with the Marshall Plan and then the gradual transition from a model of rival colonial conquest and exploitation to a community of co-operative, modern, mercantile, industrial and then post-industrial societies - brought about in liberal democracies by enlightened political leaders determined that Europe would never go through anything like WW2 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Pretending that Remainers in general are crediting the EU with the defeat of Hitler is the daftest Leaver claim yet. We all know that was achieved by the USSR, US, British Empire and friends. Stalin would have snapped up Western Europe, East Asia and the decolonizing empires too, if it hadn’t been for the US and the successful reconstruction of a shattered Western Europe, firstly with the Marshall Plan and then the gradual transition from a model of rival colonial conquest and exploitation to a community of co-operative, modern, mercantile, industrial and then post-industrial societies - brought about in liberal democracies by enlightened political leaders determined that Europe would never go through anything like WW2 again. Of course it was the USSR, USA, British Empire and others. It isn't so much Remainers in general making these claims. It is the inner circle of the EU itself and its cheerleaders. It isn't new. They have rehearsed these fantasies so many times over the years that they actually appear to believe them. "Communism ended when Eastern European nations joined the EU." Really? They just woke up one morning and decided then? To those of us that know the truth it is laughable, but there are impressionable minds at stake. If there is anything that will determine that Europe never goes through anything like WW2 again, and given human nature I very much doubt it, it is certainly not this preening, arrogant, bureaucratic trading bloc organisation called the European Union. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/01/18/po-ferries-to-register-entire-english-channel-fleet-under-cyprus-flag/?fbclid=IwAR2XQua3tu6up9zJD2x9GvsrYOsWjiQ99QQrsRmVlTyVosxDAKAUR_unHKw Wonder why they did that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 It tells you at the bottom of the page... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Because of Brexit or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Because of Brexit or not? Yes.....Has been done on MF already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 15 hours ago, ballaughbiker said: Abrasive in style should be substituted by gratuitously offensive given those vids. 14 hours ago, pongo said: He collects his EU wages but does very little work. All the years he was on the Fisheries committee, he seldom turned up. Then pretended to represent the honest voice of the fishing industry. What he does well: He turns up with a pre prepared supercilious diatribe - then delivers it at the first opportunity. Whether or not it is especially relevant. That then goes on his YouTube channel (which is part of his bread and butter) and is retweeted by thousands of Gammons-Jaunes online. Then he doesn't turn up again at the Parliament for ages. It's stand-up. Farage is all about Farage. That's probably why he is now in favour of a third referendum. Because it's bank for him - online revenue, appearance fees, TV etc. His fans even pay to take selfies with him. No wonder Britain is in such a mess. ETA: and Farage seems like a normal compared with the nutters now running UKIP. you two just don't get it........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, RIchard Britten said: Because of Brexit or not? 1 hour ago, Barrie Stevens said: Yes.....Has been done on MF already... no- most of the ships have been registered in bermuda for years......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 15 hours ago, woolley said: Oh dear. Yes. Of course, much of what you say about him is true. However, you have said not one word about the claims made there by the EU elite about historical events. Ludicrous, no? C'mon Woolley, where and when have they ever said what you claim ? It's twisting the facts to suit an agenda. This is the sort of tripe that Farage has been coming out with lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, woody2 said: no- most of the ships have been registered in bermuda for years......... https://guidetoshipregistries.com/shipregistries-country/bermuda Bermudan ships are British ships but not UK ships and the Bermudan flag is not an EU flag. Some companies are registering under EU registers ie Cyprus apparently to benefit from some variation in tonnage tax possibly more apparent if they sail between the EU and UK. Seemingly Brexit has caused this to become an issue thus they are adapting to post Brexit conditions. I Post a link... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 why is it that these people applying for settled status seem to be old, living on benefits, needing the nhs, have no paperwork and don't speak english........ another remoaner lie exposed....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: C'mon Woolley, where and when have they ever said what you claim ? It's twisting the facts to suit an agenda. This is the sort of tripe that Farage has been coming out with lately. the eu make the claim all the time that they have kept peace in europe........ certain remoaners on this forum have made the same claim....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Barrie Stevens said: https://guidetoshipregistries.com/shipregistries-country/bermuda Bermudan ships are British ships but not UK ships and the Bermudan flag is not an EU flag. Some companies are registering under EU registers ie Cyprus apparently to benefit from some variation in tonnage tax possibly more apparent if they sail between the EU and UK. Seemingly Brexit has caused this to become an issue thus they are adapting to post Brexit conditions. I Post a link... they switch because of the tonnage tax.......nothing to do with exit..... p+o have been doing it for years...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, woody2 said: they switch because of the tonnage tax.......nothing to do with exit..... p+o have been doing it for years...... I love you really W2, how are your unicorns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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