P.K. Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Hey Woolster, take a tip from me - concentrate on the alleged collapse of the deisel market re Nissan and ignore all the other fallout from brexit. Oh hang on - you already have..... Well "PHEW" for that! Come off it Woolster. All the central planks of brexit like "sovereignty", "taking back control", "immigration" etc etc have all been so soundly and roundly debunked it's only bigotry that's keeping the whole, shambolic circus afloat. That and the tory party riven by self-interest and putting themselves before country as per... It comes to something when the French feel sorry for us..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 2/2/2019 at 11:42 AM, P.K. said: “Such a contrast between EU negotiator Sabine Weyand – fluent, detail rich, serious, knowledgeable – and the succession of defiantly ignorant Tory MPs spouting their slogans” One thing I am thankful for is that the EU take the GFA a great deal more seriously than our own brexiteers.... She's a bean counting apparatchik. They're politicians. There is bound to be a contrast. Why would you compare them? Nobody DOESN'T take the GFA seriously. The GFA says nothing about the nature of the border anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, woolley said: She's a bean counting apparatchik. They're politicians. There is bound to be a contrast. Why would you compare them? Nobody DOESN'T take the GFA seriously. The GFA says nothing about the nature of the border anyway. Thought you had learnt your lesson. Apparently not. There are none so blind.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, P.K. said: Hey Woolster, take a tip from me - concentrate on the alleged collapse of the deisel market re Nissan and ignore all the other fallout from brexit. Oh hang on - you already have..... Well "PHEW" for that! Come off it Woolster. All the central planks of brexit like "sovereignty", "taking back control", "immigration" etc etc have all been so soundly and roundly debunked it's only bigotry that's keeping the whole, shambolic circus afloat. That and the tory party riven by self-interest and putting themselves before country as per... It comes to something when the French feel sorry for us..... You'll believe anything. You have not debunked anything about sovereignty. Ever. The French would do better sorting out their own problems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, woolley said: Just think about what you are saying here. You would prefer to have the taxation policy of the country in the hands of a pan-continental, foreign bureaucracy than in the hands of the elected government of the UK. That is quite unbelievable. It is however consistent with a belief in a United States of Europe. Perhaps this is what you really advocate? Cultural and strategic catastrophe? Surely this is just a humble and innocuous trading bloc. As a sovereign nation we set our own fiscal policy, foreign policy, criminal justice acts etc etc. It's called "sovereignty".... Europol are a major force for good. There are a lot of tax dodgers that need an international effort to make them pay their dues. Just think Hamilton and his fucking jet. Think the tax loss was worth an aircraft registry plus making the place out as a tax pariah en route...? You need to re-think your priorities.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, P.K. said: Europol are a major force for good. There are a lot of tax dodgers that need an international effort to make them pay their dues. Agree. We don't need the EU for those. Just sovereign nations acting together in agreement. Not by compulsion under "EU Law" which overrides national laws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, woolley said: Agree. We don't need the EU for those. Just sovereign nations acting together in agreement. Not by compulsion under "EU Law" which overrides national laws. That the democratically elected HoC voted for. Face it. The whole Brexit campaign with it's lies and falsehoods is a busted flush. All that's left is damage limitation.... Edited February 4, 2019 by P.K. Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I'm afraid you are beyond redemption, PK. The superstate has got you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, woolley said: I'm afraid you are beyond redemption, PK. The superstate has got you. And you've run out of "debating" points. Like your "cheerleaders" Farage, Gove and Johnson.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 hours ago, woolley said: Just think about what you are saying here. You would prefer to have the taxation policy of the country in the hands of a pan-continental, foreign bureaucracy than in the hands of the elected government of the UK. That is quite unbelievable. It is however consistent with a belief in a United States of Europe. Perhaps this is what you really advocate? Cultural and strategic catastrophe? Surely this is just a humble and innocuous trading bloc. No. That’s not what I want at all. Don’t shoot the messenger. I’d be quite happy for the whole EU to be signed up to respecting the U.K.’s territorial claims and committed to protecting those claims in so far as each state’s sovereign constitution allows in accordance with the Nice Declaration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 8 hours ago, P.K. said: Hey , take a tip from me Now that really is funny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Feel the hate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, woolley said: I'm afraid you are beyond redemption, PK. The superstate has got you. Uh-oh, you've done it now woollster, it's 'Testing, Testing' for you laddie... Edited February 4, 2019 by quilp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Woolley, reality is making a fool out of you. Diesel sales have slumped, but Nissan will be producing the X-Trail, just not in Sunderland. You think the U.K. economy will fly after Brexit, when all researched projections, even Jacob’s, see a generation who will be worse off after Brexit. I know that doesn’t gel with your feelings, but in the absence of any rationale, that’s all they are; feelings - best kept to yourself. You say that bad handling of Brexit negotiations is not confined to British politicians. What do you mean? Care to explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, quilp said: Uh-oh, you've done it now woollster, it's 'Testing, Testing' for you laddie... Hardly. No foul-mouthed, playground name-calling from the Woolster. Even when they're losing the debate. Unlike some.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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