RIchard Britten Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lxxx said: Which, I would hazard a guess, is behind the thoughts of the likes of Radcliffe, Dyson and others. The short term inconvenience of Brexit is something that can ne negotiated and overcome if you have a strong enough product (s), business model and a pro-business government. The thirsty hands of a communist regime is something that nothing and no-one will be able to evade. Or greed...which is more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: Or greed...which is more likely. Of course Richard. When you've finished ironing your Che Guevara T-shirt have a read about what life is like in a hard left, communist state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lxxx said: Of course Richard. When you've finished ironing your Che Guevara T-shirt have a read about what life is like in a hard left, communist state. "Che Guevara T-shirt"...lazy. D- Expecting HNWI to pay their dues is not communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, RIchard Britten said: "Che Guevara T-shirt"...lazy. D- Expecting HNWI to pay their dues is not communism. I quite agree but if the structure of the tax system doesn't ask for it you don't expect people to voluntarily pay more than they are legally obliged to do so do you? McDonald and Corbyn have enough soundbites between them to be able to form a judgement that they're not going to be too accommodating when it comes to renegotiating reasonable increases to the tax system, if they come to power. It's still unlikely they'll get in but while there is a chance it's prudent for people of wealth to make alternate provisions. Most sane people would do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Lxxx said: I quite agree but if the structure of the tax system doesn't ask for it you don't expect people to voluntarily pay more than they are legally obliged to do so do you? McDonald and Corbyn have enough soundbites between them to be able to form a judgement that they're not going to be too accommodating when it comes to renegotiating reasonable increases to the tax system, if they come to power. It's still unlikely they'll get in but while there is a chance it's prudent for people of wealth to make alternate provisions. Most sane people would do the same. When HNWI are the ones essentially writing the tax laws, are you surprised that the system doesn't ask them to pay their fair share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, woolley said: It will truly break your heart if the future is bright. This is what membership of the EU in your lifetime has done to your view of your country. So jaundiced that you are cheering on its competitors at every turn. Sadly there's a lot of it about. Like everyone else I want the most successful brexit possible. Especially for my kids. Equally I want a successful EU as they provide 30% of the food we eat. Unfortunately we have the worst Government I have ever known and the worst Opposition I have ever known at exactly the wrong time. Just think if Nick Turncoat Cleggy had gone into a coalition with Labour, who are much nearer liberal values than the tories will ever be, none of this would have happened. Just something else I can blame him for.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: When HNWI are the ones essentially writing the tax laws, are you surprised that the system doesn't ask them to pay their fair share? This isn't what I am saying. I do think HNWI and their corporations should pay more of a fair share, however the rhetoric of a Corbyn government gives the potential of a dramatic shift way past a 'fair share.' This is what I would imagine is making people nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Lxxx said: This isn't what I am saying. I do think HNWI and their corporations should pay more of a fair share, however the rhetoric of a Corbyn government gives the potential of a dramatic shift way past a 'fair share.' This is what I would imagine is making people nervous. By people, you mean the HNWI who go out of their way to avoid paying their "fair" share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: By people, you mean the HNWI who go out of their way to avoid paying their "fair" share? The same people who are responsible for corporations who funnel billions of pounds into public coffers each year in corporation tax, VAT, employee PAYE, national insurance, dividend receipt tax etc etc… and a whole supply chain of small, medium and large businesses who service large corporations. Not to mention the products they sell and everything associated with retail of said products. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Honda now ready to announce closure of Swindon plant with loss of 3.5k jobs (Sky News now). Announcement tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lxxx said: The same people who are responsible for corporations who funnel billions of pounds into public coffers each year in corporation tax, VAT, employee PAYE, national insurance, dividend receipt tax etc etc… and a whole supply chain of small, medium and large businesses who service large corporations. Not to mention the products they sell and everything associated with retail of said products. But what about the billions of pounds they aren't funnelling into public coffers, but into offshores to make sure the Taxman can't get at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Honda now ready to announce closure of Swindon plant with loss of 3.5k jobs (Sky News now). Announcement tomorrow. Would that be the Swindon that voted to Leave (54.7%)? Sky News: https://news.sky.com/story/honda-to-stun-ministers-with-closure-of-swindon-factory-11641154 Edited February 18, 2019 by RIchard Britten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Honda now ready to announce closure of Swindon plant with loss of 3.5k jobs (Sky News now). Announcement tomorrow. If true (looks like it is) that is very sad news. The impact will be greater than 3500 jobs as the associated business will all be hit as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: But what about the billions of pounds they aren't funnelling into public coffers, but into offshores to make sure the Taxman can't get at it? You really are the master of circular arguments that never seem to go anywhere. You'll mature one day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Lxxx said: You really are the master of circular arguments that never seem to go anywhere. You'll mature one day. And you must get rug burns on your knees from all the happy times you give to HNWIs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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