woolley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 14 hours ago, PmJ said: As previously posted, every business decision is going to be blamed on Brexit now. Well the folks on here blame it on Brexit even when the company involved denies it and the evidence supports what they say, as per Honda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) Honda said the move was due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles, and it had nothing to do with Brexit. A fall in demand for diesel cars and tougher emissions regulations have shaken up the car industry. eu's fault then.......... Edited February 19, 2019 by woody2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 12 hours ago, P.K. said: It's about the way things are presented to put a spin on the "facts" as it were..... For example Farage, Gove and Johnson simplified complicated issues like the UK contributing to the EU whilst completely ignoring the rabate as a sop to the stupid. OK, so it didn't work as well as expected so they then unashamedly played the racist card, which regretfully did appeal to the baser instincts of a lot of UK voters. You clearly haven't checked out the provenance of "fullfact" - so maybe you should before quoting them as the ONLY purveyors of factual information. Simple as.... Happy To Help! Fullfact called out the £350 million "bus" saving to what I think would be your satisfaction. They are accused of both left and right bias. However, as I said before, whatever you think of fullfact is irrelevant here. Simply ignore what they say and their conclusions (or spin as you would have it), and just use the links to go direct to the ONS data which says precisely the same thing. Of course, I know that you will ignore it again because you know it is correct and it doesn't suit YOUR agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Freggyragh said: No. But if the company says that Brexit is a factor, but the politician says it isn’t, who do you believe? But they didn't did they? They both said it isn't. 6 hours ago, Freggyragh said: You funny. You not funny. You are back to this anti-British sniping again. Talking down the prospects of the economy at every turn, even though you say you are not. And at a time of record high employment and massive inward investment. I recognise that there needs to be more targeted funding to the areas that lost heavy industry. More imaginative distribution of government agencies could help there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, woody2 said: Honda said the move was due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles, and it had nothing to do with Brexit. A fall in demand for diesel cars and tougher emissions regulations have shaken up the car industry. eu's fault then.......... What percentage of Honda Swindon’s output is diesel then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 hours ago, mojomonkey said: Regardless of whether it is connected to leaving the EU or not I think this adequately shows the level of influence and relationship the UK’s MPs have with many a big business. Politicians have no relationship with business whatsoever, other than when they are being schmoozed in the hope and expectation of extracting some taxpayers' money from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, woolley said: But they didn't did they? They both said it isn't. You not funny. You are back to this anti-British sniping again. Talking down the prospects of the economy at every turn, even though you say you are not. And at a time of record high employment and massive inward investment. I recognise that there needs to be more targeted funding to the areas that lost heavy industry. More imaginative distribution of government agencies could help there. Ah "the disagree with Brexit therefore you are some sort of anti-Britain traitor" schtick... Quote Talking down the prospects of the economy at every turn... Like what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, RIchard Britten said: You mean other than the ever increasing list of broken Brexit promises? We're not even there to see the benefits yet. You really will have to be patient for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, woolley said: We're not even there to see the benefits yet. You really will have to be patient for a few years. But what about the promises that have been broken already? The 40 great deals for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, woolley said: We're not even there to see the benefits yet. You really will have to be patient for a few years. I can't help thinking that we'll be hearing the above plaintive whine for many years to come..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, RIchard Britten said: But what about the promises that have been broken already? The 40 great deals for example? Wait and see. Business will continue as before. It's in nobody's interest for it not to and the imperative is that deals will be done to facilitate it. Necessity is the mother of invention, don't you know? You chaps are too much in thrall to doom laden politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, woolley said: Wait and see. Business will continue as before. It's in nobody's interest for it not to and the imperative is that deals will be done to facilitate it. Necessity is the mother of invention, don't you know? You chaps are too much in thrall to doom laden politicians. And you are in the thrall of pie in the sky wishers and dreamers. Quote It's in nobody's interest for it not to... Do you remember those guys who made a killing out of the crash of 2008? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, woolley said: Wait and see. Business will continue as before. It's in nobody's interest for it not to and the imperative is that deals will be done to facilitate it. Necessity is the mother of invention, don't you know? You chaps are too much in thrall to doom laden politicians. Your mate Jacob Rees etc admits we will probably not see the benefits of Brexit for 50 years...Your other mate Bojo says "F....business". Wait and see indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, P.K. said: I can't help thinking that we'll be hearing the above plaintive whine for many years to come..... Even with record high employment announced yet again today and massive inward investment, you still love to whinge. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47290331 although of course with the obligatory BBC "despite" clause: The jobs market remains in a robust shape despite the loss of momentum in the economy towards the end of last year - although the Brexit fog effect may be yet to register. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: And you are in the thrall of pie in the sky wishers and dreamers. Do you remember those guys who made a killing out of the crash of 2008? Oh right. So the nuclear scenario then. Everything is going to meltdown, the FTSE is going to crash. All because we want an independent policy outside of the Brussels bureaucracy. You believe this even with record high employment and massive inward investment? You are afraid of bogeymen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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