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6 minutes ago, woody2 said:

more good exit news.......

Record UK government surplus in January

Britain's public finances have received a big boost ahead of the chancellor's Spring Statement next month.

Income from taxes beat public spending by £14.9bn in January, the largest monthly surplus since records began in 1993

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47318862

Beat me to it woody. UK eh? What a basket case.

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9 minutes ago, Declan said:

I felt Ed Miliband’s Labour got that one wrong. Especially those now leaving to form in the TIG party. Could have been a centrist majority hold sway. 

Blair did that and managed to alienate both the country and his party. All things to all men sounds attractive but ends up pleasing nobody. It's toxic now. TIGs won't last. They agree about nothing other than "We want a People's Vote."

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23 minutes ago, woody2 said:

7/10 are in leave seats.........

7 / 11 in remain seats

South Cambridge

Liverpool

Stockport

Totnes

plus the London boroughs of Redbridge, Enfield and Lambeth  

All voted Remain

Luton

Broxtowe 

plus Sheffield and Nottingham (although whether the specific constitencies of the TIG mps did we don't know).  

Voted leave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#South_West_England_(including_Gibraltar)

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11 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said:

"The ONS added that public sector net debt increased by £40.5bn to £1.8tn in January, equivalent to 82.6% of gross domestic product (GDP)."

That's been growing since the Napoleonic wars and vastly accelerated under the Blair government. Gonna blame that on Brexit too?

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Just now, woolley said:

That's been growing since the Napoleonic wars and vastly accelerated under the Blair government. Gonna blame that on Brexit too?

Well we could compare it to pre-Brexit rates and see what the data says.

Do you know what else vastly increased under Blair?  The number of wars we were taking part in.  

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16 minutes ago, woolley said:

Blair did that and managed to alienate both the country and his party. All things to all men sounds attractive but ends up pleasing nobody. It's toxic now. TIGs won't last. They agree about nothing other than "We want a People's Vote."

Centrists work all over Europe. 

The real problem they face here is that the Tories they've taken on are pretty repugnant. They were delighted to sit alongside Cameron and Osbourne when they wrecked the country. And how can anyone make common cause with the Liberals after they allowed the Tory lie that the Global Economic Downturn was Labour's fault alone. Had that lie not been believed Ed M might have won in 2015 and no referendum and no Brexit. 

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4 minutes ago, woolley said:

That's been growing since the Napoleonic wars and vastly accelerated under the Blair government. Gonna blame that on Brexit too?

Maybe in absolute terms, but it bounced between 30% to 40% of GDP in the Blair and Brown years. It’s more than doubled to 82.6% under Tories.

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5 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Maybe in absolute terms, but it bounced between 30% to 40% of GDP in the Blair and Brown years. It’s more than doubled to 82.6% under Tories.

Think you'll find that most of that was precipitated on Labour's watch and merely worked through over the next few years as the cost of the financial crisis and subsequent recession hit the economy. Lazy to pin that on the Tories.

https://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/spending_chart_1997_2018UKp_08c1li111mcn_G0t_UK_National_Debt_As_Percent_Of_GDP?show=n

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