Barrie Stevens Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, woolley said: UK probably wouldn't notice for a couple of decades as with the VAT. I am going to bubble you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Freggyragh said: Pretty much all of what impinges on the rights of states are consumer rights, workers rights, the health and safety of consumers and workers, and common standards and regulations - all things to regulate a free and fair market / trading block, and do away with the constant consumer and worker litigation you find in the US. Like it or not, these issues are not trading block issues, they are free trade agreement issues. That’s why Canada, Japan and the E.U. have all had to bring their GDPR laws into line. You can’t have free trade if the other country’s laws allow rival companies to misuse data that they should never have got their hands on. If the U.K. is going to carry on trade it is going to have to go along with international standards. It’s a crying shame that brexiters don’t want the U.K.to carry on having just about the biggest influence on the biggest market and have no say at all. If you’re going to have bureaucrats working on the technicalities, you need scrutiny, that’s why there’s a EU Parliament. It’s true some MEPs are never there and just use it for grandstanding and claiming expenses, but they are elected and other candidates, even dolphins, are available. When there are trade disputes you need a fair arbitration process. That’s why there is European Court of Justice. Trade deals always need agreed processes for complaints and remedies remedies. The presidencies are a bit over grandiose for the job description, but there is a need for a spokesperson, and foreign representation as although it is only a political union it is a very big one. There was nothing in the Lisbon Treaty to stop the U.K. sending troops to Afghanistan, but there is to prevent any EU member supporting any challenge to the geographical integrity of the U.K. - including Gibraltar and the Falklands. The Euro is a matter for the Eurozone. Nothing to do with the U.K. and if it fails the U.K. is now exempt from bailing anyone else out (unlike last time). I can’t stand the anthem either, I’ve never heard it played anywhere but at EU functions. The flag means nothing to me. Did someone make you stand for the E.U. anthem, or salute the flag? No, didn’t think so, but I’m suspicious you have some paranoid theory that it might happen. So, nothing substantial then? 15 hours ago, Freggyragh said: . I just realised that all the arguments concerning brexit are based on outright lies or paranoid conspiracy theories, peddled by charlatans out for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Barrie Stevens said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/19/brexit-uk-to-pay-health-costs-of-retired-britons-in-eu-if-no-deal-agreed Wonder if IOM Govt will have to pay up as well? not read the link but....... labour and libdum lords stopped the bill passing for healthcare........so the uk won't be paying anything........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1000 days........time to let the winners have a go........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, woody2 said: 1000 days........time to let the winners have a go........ Who do you suggest? Perhaps if the winners had actually stepped up in the first place instead of back stabbing each other and then disappearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Who do you suggest? Perhaps if the winners had actually stepped up in the first place instead of back stabbing each other and then disappearing. gove is a remoaner........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Juncker criticised over 'freeports' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47626281 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, woody2 said: gove is a remoaner........ Who mentioned Gove? That's not what I asked, which winner do you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, woody2 said: gove is a remoaner........ #Woodyfact Looks like gammon to me: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/15/michael-gove-father-company-eu-policies-fish-processing-aberdeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 47 minutes ago, woody2 said: gove is a remoaner........ Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 51 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Who mentioned Gove? That's not what I asked, which winner do you suggest? who was the backstabber you referred to....... 13 minutes ago, woolley said: Eh? want sc+cu......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, woody2 said: who was the backstabber you referred to....... After the vote just about all of the potential PM candidates from the leave side were seemingly plotting against each other. For the third time, which winner do you suggest should take over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Everyone is a remoaner according to Woody, he refers to winners but cannot name one. Because there aren't any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, woody2 said: not read the link but....... labour and libdum lords stopped the bill passing for healthcare........so the uk won't be paying anything........ Then read it and learn something...The UK is proffering a year of grace and £500 million to cover certain health costs of defined people left living in the EU starting day before Brexit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 hours ago, woody2 said: not read the link but....... labour and libdum lords stopped the bill passing for healthcare........so the uk won't be paying anything........ The House of Lords can only stop the show temporarily. Lords can cause a revision or rethink. The Commons can force it through and create Lords to outnumber dissenters if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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